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Ben41 07-12-2011 01:57 AM

Movie Weapons wiki
 
Anybody looked at this wiki?

http://movieweapon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:NewFiles

One of the co-creators appears to be a certain user that was banned from this site a few months ago.

It doesn't look like they get much activity, but it appears that there are some gun pitures that are from this site, but I don't know if it's worth going after them.

funkychinaman 07-12-2011 02:22 AM

http://movieweapon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Moviemaster1993

Well, it looks like his hatred of the mods and proper grammar haven't wavered one bit.

Excalibur 07-12-2011 03:25 AM

Wow.

If this guy was actually you know...GOOD at doing his job here, I'd call him mean spirited but seriously? IMDFB has achieved "internet celebrity" among gun geeks. Does this guy really think he can make a different wiki style site and expect it to work?

Seriously, his profile is not being subtle at all.

Rockwolf66 07-12-2011 05:20 AM

Remember Kids Integrity and profesionalism are not just words in a book but concepts to live by. Frankly that ***clown has absoulty none.

That reminds me has anyone taken a look at the IMFDB youtube channel lately. the guy quatting on it has changed his profile to be all about homosexual felatio. I think that's a violation of youtube's code of conduct there.I wonder if someone should report him for it?

MoviePropMaster2008 07-12-2011 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 30956)
http://movieweapon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Moviemaster1993

Well, it looks like his hatred of the mods and proper grammar haven't wavered one bit.

Hilarious that he openly STARTS his own page with a RANT about what 'Butt monkey f**ks we are".... And this immediately profanity laden rant is going to make new users feel all warm and welcome to his site????????

He also stole a bunch of my copyrighted GUN photographs. And you guys know how I respond to that. This kid has NO respect for copyrights. His actions here could have spelled legal trouble for IMFDB.

If he wants to make a page for British 14 yr olds, he's welcome to it. IMFDB has many members who are OVER the age of 30 (and older ;) ) who actually work in the field. I seriously doubt his own 'movie weapons site' has any contributors who work in the field.

Pathetic really :D

Spartan198 07-12-2011 08:14 AM

His wiki isn't even remotely as big, as active, hasn't achieved the celebrity status that IMFDB has, and doesn't have industry insiders like IMFDB does, so this is like TNA to our WWE (we're the big dog and they're too little to compete with us, if you aren't a wrestling fan and don't get the reference). Besides that, Wikia has been experiencing a lot less traffic in the past year ever since a number of their biggest Wikis (like Grand Theft Wiki) broke out on their own in protest over new TOS, which made the content area of Wiki pages extremely small with most of the page devoted to advertising. And even before that, I've seen Wikis for extremely popular games not even get off the ground. The SOCOM, Rainbow Six, and Ghost Recon wikis are all in abysmal shape and have been for as long as I remember.

I'm still kind of tempted to spam him under a fake IP address, though. :D But I won't do that because, like Rock said, integrity and professionalism. :cool:

Evil Tim 07-12-2011 10:02 AM

Fairly sure both the admins are the same person. And yay, a Halo page full of images jacked from the Halo Wiki, because Moviemaster doesn't seem to realise if people want to look at the Halo Wiki they tend to just do that. It has the advantage of being written by people who have a passing familiarity with the English language, too.

Excalibur 07-12-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 30966)
Fairly sure both the admins are the same person. And yay, a Halo page full of images jacked from the Halo Wiki, because Moviemaster doesn't seem to realise if people want to look at the Halo Wiki they tend to just do that. It has the advantage of being written by people who have a passing familiarity with the English language, too.

Kinda of ironic since he claims to be British and they invented the language.


I'd just ignore this guy but he's copying our site and even using some of our images. There should be a way to report or dispute. I'd love to see him get letters threatening law suit

Evil Tim 07-12-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 30967)
Kinda of ironic since he claims to be British and they invented the language.

English was created by mispronouncing and mispelling German, Latin, Old Norse, French, all the Celtic languages and probably about ten other things. You could say he's keeping up a fine tradition. :D

AdAstra2009 07-12-2011 04:23 PM

Imitation is the best form of flattery...

MT2008 07-12-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 30971)
Imitation is the best form of flattery...

Yeah, I might give a damn if it weren't so pathetic. This kid has terrible grammar and spelling (even for his age), and almost the entire content of his site (pics and info) is jacked from us. I mean, do you think anyone who visits his Wiki is going to compare it to IMFDB and not realize how inferior it is? Mostly, his site is just proof of what we all knew about him when he got kicked off IMFDB: He's a barely literate moron with a personality disorder.

Oh, and for more laughs, read his blog posts: He actually praises himself for being awesome. Calling him immature, or an "assclown", is a big understatement: Try "delusional headcase".

k9870 07-12-2011 07:31 PM

Wow too funny......

funkychinaman 07-12-2011 08:03 PM

http://movieweapon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pinko49

The "co-founder." Maybe Liam is just a kid, but this guy is *21.* (And I'm just assuming Liam is just a kid, going from his lack of language skills and the fact that no adult should love the Transformers movies that much.)

And do check out his FAL page. It's quite thorough.

Evil Tim 07-12-2011 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 30975)
The "co-founder." Maybe Liam is just a kid, but this guy is *21.* (And I'm just assuming Liam is just a kid, going from his lack of language skills and the fact that no adult should love the Transformers movies that much.)

I'm not wholly convinced they're two seperate people, they write in more or less exactly the same way and their conversations seem very forced and artificial; particularly the pointless animosity between the "two" of them to prove they're not the same person because nobody could pretend to disagree with themselves.

funkychinaman 07-12-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 30976)
I'm not wholly convinced they're two seperate people, they write in more or less exactly the same way and their conversations seem very forced and artificial; particularly the pointless animosity between the "two" of them to prove they're not the same person because nobody could pretend to disagree with themselves.

It could just indicate the poor state of education in the UK.

But If you're right, then that's a little sad.

(But to cheer everyone up: http://movieweapon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Copyright)

Evil Tim 07-12-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 30977)
It could just indicate the poor state of education in the UK.

Hey! :mad:

Spartan198 07-12-2011 08:40 PM

^Pwned. :D

funkychinaman 07-12-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 30978)
Hey! :mad:

Or maybe he's just using a broken keyboard? ;)

(Like we Americans are in any place to criticize anyone's poor state of education.)

MoviePropMaster2008 07-12-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 30977)
It could just indicate the poor state of education in the UK.

Bunch of wankers and gits all. ;) I can't count the amount of Shyte we get from UK members .....;)

On a happier note, I contacted his parent wiki group and informed them of numerous copyright violations pertaining to my images. What offended me was that he posted them as "property of Moviemaster1993" or something like that. No attributions, nothing. I will be filing a DMCA take down order when I get the chance. :D

MoviePropMaster2008 07-12-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 30968)
English was created by mispronouncing and mispelling German, Latin, Old Norse, French, all the Celtic languages and probably about ten other things. You could say he's keeping up a fine tradition. :D

Hahahahaha! :D:D:D

Excalibur 07-13-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 30982)
Bunch of wankers and gits all. ;) I can't count the amount of Shyte we get from UK members .....;)

On a happier note, I contacted his parent wiki group and informed them of numerous copyright violations pertaining to my images. What offended me was that he posted them as "property of Moviemaster1993" or something like that. No attributions, nothing. I will be filing a DMCA take down order when I get the chance. :D

I wish we can do internet law suits. I'd like to see a lawyer knock on his door to serve him an order.

Rockwolf66 07-13-2011 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 30984)
I wish we can do internet law suits. I'd like to see a lawyer knock on his door to serve him an order.

If he acts in real life the way he does online it won't be lawyers knocking on his door it will be the cops or worse.


[Headline] Internet troll found with computer shoved into body cavity[/headline]

The Wierd It 07-13-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 30982)
I can't count the amount of Shyte we get from UK members .....;)

*headdesk*

Rockwolf66 07-13-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Wierd It (Post 30986)
*headdesk*

As A half-Brit does that mean I need to drive a Manure truck to your office and dump a load for MPM?

Milkovich 07-13-2011 11:00 AM

Tried to get past the front page without laughing. Didn't work.

MT2008 07-13-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 30982)
On a happier note, I contacted his parent wiki group and informed them of numerous copyright violations pertaining to my images. What offended me was that he posted them as "property of Moviemaster1993" or something like that. No attributions, nothing. I will be filing a DMCA take down order when I get the chance. :D

Although I've never shared your enthusiasm for keeping IMFDB's gun images exclusive, this is one case where I definitely agree with you. I don't care if he wants to start his own pathetic Wiki to compete with ours, but I sure as hell don't want him using our images and claiming they're his, while whining about what fascists we are. After all, it's not like he doesn't know exactly where the images come from. Whereas many of the people who have used our gun pics without permission most likely just found them on a quick Google search and weren't aware of our policy regarding their use.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 30985)
If he acts in real life the way he does online it won't be lawyers knocking on his door it will be the cops or worse.

More likely, the men in white coats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wierd It (Post 30986)
*headdesk*

Don't worry, I promise that MPM and the rest of us still love you guys. Even though you're all gun-hating, monarchy-worshiping pussies. :P

But seriously, I have seen a couple of British users who have given us lots of problems. I remember I once asked a user (whose profile identified his location as the U.K.) not to upload pics of guns we already had. He responded to me with insults and profanity, and after I temp-banned him, he used another IP to vandalize my talk page. As for Moviemaster himself, when MPM explained our policy on images to him, he responded with an anti-American tirade. I realize that these anecdotes hardly say anything about English IMFDB users in general, but it is just a little weird.

Of course, some of our most annoying forum trolls (PersonOfInterest, BurtReynoldsMoustache, Sillybunz, etc.) have been Americans.

Evil Tim 07-13-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 30992)
But seriously, I have seen a couple of British users who have given us lots of problems. I remember I once asked a user (whose profile identified his location as the U.K.) not to upload pics of guns we already had. He responded to me with insults and profanity, and after I temp-banned him, he used another IP to vandalize my talk page. As for Moviemaster himself, when MPM explained our policy on images to him, he responded with an anti-American tirade. I realize that these anecdotes hardly say anything about English IMFDB users in general, but it is just a little weird.

It's basically a scaled-up version of general childish dislike of any kind of authority; at a certain age, any authority figure is automatically stupid and terrible, from your older siblings, parents and teachers to the government. Obviously for Americans that's where the buck stops, but for kids from other countries they can mindlessly dislike America because it's a Big Authority Figure Nation (TM).

So basically it's the same reason he doesn't get along with other users, write properly or understand the concept of following rules.

MT2008 07-13-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 30995)
It's basically a scaled-up version of general childish dislike of any kind of authority; at a certain age, any authority figure is automatically stupid and terrible, from your older siblings, parents and teachers to the government. Obviously for Americans that's where the buck stops, but for kids from other countries they can mindlessly dislike America because it's a Big Authority Figure Nation (TM).

In all fairness to you Brits, childish and mindless disdain for the U.S. government is pretty common over here (and it's not limited to any age group). It's way too common amongst both Libertarians, with all of its armchair Minutemen who spout mindless pseudo-aphorisms about abuses of power, and leftist undergrads whose views of the U.S. government come from their professors and Rage Against The Machine lyrics. The only difference between them and the aforementioned anti-American Brits is that the latter have a far less nuanced understanding of American civil society.

MoviePropMaster2008 07-13-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 30996)
In all fairness to you Brits, childish and mindless disdain for the U.S. government is pretty common over here (and it's not limited to any age group). It's way too common amongst both Libertarians, with all of its armchair Minutemen who spout mindless pseudo-aphorisms about abuses of power, and leftist undergrads whose views of the U.S. government come from their professors and Rage Against The Machine lyrics. The only difference between them and the aforementioned anti-American Brits is that the latter have a far less nuanced understanding of American civil society.

Whoa there sparky, watch the gross generalizations.

Spartan198 07-13-2011 08:28 PM

MPM, I know this might be a tedious task, since you have literally hundreds of images from your own armory on this site, but have you ever considered reuploading versions of them with an IMFDB watermark like this one of an M9 pistol?

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/6/61/M9-pistolet.jpg

The Wierd It 07-13-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 30999)
MPM, I know this might be a tedious task, since you have literally hundreds of images from your own armory on this site, but have you ever considered reuploading versions of them with an IMFDB watermark like this one of an M9 pistol?

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/6/61/M9-pistolet.jpg

That watermark could be taken out by anyone using paint in about twenty seconds.

Evil Tim 07-13-2011 09:17 PM

Yeah, the trouble with watermarks is either

a) They're not on the image, so you can just paint over them with the background colour or snip them out or
b) They are on the image and ruin it.

Though I've seen some from IGN are just a slight shift from the background colour you can't really see it unless you're looking for it (I think it's a photoshop template of some kind that slightly alters the colours it's placed over). This had one rather infamous consequence when Capcom couldn't find a file copy of the boxart to a game they were re-releasing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...7129_front.jpg

Look in front of the wolf's mouth if you can't see it. And yes, it was actually released in stores like that.

MoviePropMaster2008 07-13-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wierd It (Post 31001)
That watermark could be taken out by anyone using paint in about twenty seconds.

True, but removing it shows clear intent to violate copyright. ANY watermark can be removed with enough skill and time in Photoshop. All we have to do is show the original image WITH the watermark and per DMCA rules, the site must remove it. You can never STOP piracy, but you can take steps to PROVE piracy after the fact.

Rockwolf66 07-14-2011 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 31005)
True, but removing it shows clear intent to violate copyright. ANY watermark can be removed with enough skill and time in Photoshop. All we have to do is show the original image WITH the watermark and per DMCA rules, the site must remove it. You can never STOP piracy, but you can take steps to PROVE piracy after the fact.

I know of a couple people who do use our images for private use. They are not trying to get fame and fortune off of our work. People like that I don't mind. Moviemaster1993 and the person who uses the IMFDB name on Youtube I have nothing but dislike for.

k9870 07-14-2011 03:13 AM

Ive posted on gun forums but gave credit to imfdb/source if given to us by outside. this on the other hand is theft. Hope its taken off his pathetic site soon, how did op find that site anyway?

mpe2010 07-14-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 31007)
People like that I don't mind. Moviemaster1993 and the person who uses the IMFDB name on Youtube I have nothing but dislike for.

i found another one.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RedditSC

How can you be sponsored by a wiki?

bunni 07-14-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mpe2010 (Post 31011)
i found another one.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RedditSC

How can you be sponsored by a wiki?

Hah! This came up before but that was me. I enjoy watching Starcraft and threw them a few bucks and asked them to mention imfdb. (:

Excalibur 07-14-2011 11:56 PM

A part of me wants to give into the child in me and go over to Moviemaster's new wiki and vandalize the hell out of it, throwing up pages and deleting his crap, but since I'm an adult, I'll refrain from thinking that. I am better than him.

Evil Tim 07-15-2011 12:04 AM

Plus that you'd be putting more effort into vandalising it than he put into making it. Those few big articles he has for videogames are copy-pastes from those games' Wikia sites, sometimes with a few extra spelling errors thrown in.

funkychinaman 07-15-2011 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 31014)
A part of me wants to give into the child in me and go over to Moviemaster's new wiki and vandalize the hell out of it, throwing up pages and deleting his crap, but since I'm an adult, I'll refrain from thinking that. I am better than him.

That's weird, a part of me wants to go there just to correct stuff, like capitalizing the "M" in Modern Warfare. That thing is driving me crazy.


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