Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman
 

It makes my blood boil that people are just jumping on this bandwagon and going straight for the racecard without knowing all the facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rakn...eature=related

Some key points

* The photo that is always displayed of Martin are 4-5 years old when he was 12 or 13 while he was a 6 foot 150-170lb 17 year old at the time of the incident. Simply a ploy to trick people into thinking he was some young innocent child

* Eyewitness accounts state that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him up. Zimmerman states that he was being punched in the face and having his head slammed into the pavement. Which is Violent Felonious Assault

*Police and Paramedics state that Zimmerman had a broken/bloody nose and a bloody gash on his head when they arrived

*Eyewitness(es) state that it was Zimmerman screaming for help. The lead police detective showed the recording to Martin's father and he states that the scream was not his son

*Zimmerman claims that Martin went for his gun and he was trying to get back to his car when Martin was shot

*Instead of Martin explaining that he allegedly was visiting his father he attacked Zimmerman according to Zimmerman's claims

*Is it really that hard to believe that a 6 foot 150-170lb 17 year old can get the drop on a 5 foot 2 overweight 28 year old man in a hand to hand fight?

I'm not saying Zimmerman was all in the right but people need to know the facts before they jump on this crap.

Basically we have a case that might be self defense...it might not. Blown out of all preportions by the media who is playing the race card and muddying up the facts. Now when the case goes to trial everything is going to be tarnished by what the media has done.

And even worse, by this point, with the race agitators already whipped into such a frenzy, there is no foreseeable way this can end well at all.

There's no truth in the news and now news in the truth

I hope the Sanford police are prepared for a LA Riots scenario soon.

If Zimmerman wasn't armed for all we know he could've been the dead one.

Looking at the photos, there is no way the kid in the photos is supposed to be 17. He looks like 12

Media Bias at it's best Excaliber.

Well clearly he pistol-whipped himself in the face and rolled around in the grass before taking the shot, as the evil gun owner manual says to do in chapter 7.

The one that gets me is the petition calling for Geraldo Rivera to apologise for saying the hoodie killed Trayvon as surely as Zimmerman did, "as one of the leading Latino journalists in the country." Since, you know, saying he has a duty to believe certain things or he's effectively betraying his race isn't racist or anything.

Normally, in cases like this, I completely ignore the people who play the race card and side with the law. I'm as weary as you guys of all the bitching and whining about how racist and evil America is, which seems inevitable whenever stuff like this happens. (And in this case, it's really ironic, since Zimmerman is half-Peruvian, which makes him as "white" as our President.)

But from what I've read so far, Zimmerman was really NOT in the right here. He apparently had a reputation for being short-tempered, and he had a record of his own (several arrests for domestic violence and even an assault on a fellow officer). The 911 dispatcher told him NOT to pursue Martin, but he did anyway. Sounds to me like a bit of a hothead, possibly with a Napoleon Complex (since he was such a short dude). Even if Martin is a teenage thug, and even if he was killed in self-defense, it still appears that Zimmerman may have acted in a way that made the situation more dangerous than it needed to be. And the stuff that I've seen on Zimmerman detailing his history isn't just being posted by my leftist Facebook friends, either - there are quite a few Libertarians who find him unsympathetic.

None of this, of course, changes the fact that investigators should have the chance to evaluate the evidence before we draw conclusions. And I doubt that the evidence will cast Martin in a good light, either way (no matter what his leftist sympathizers want to believe). I just don't think you should all be so quick to get behind Zimmerman and absolve him of any guilt just because of what he was, as opposed to who he was. Law enforcement may be an honorable profession, but it can attract some very dishonorable people.

Wasn't he just a neighborhood watchman?

Yes. I use the term "law enforcement" quite loosely here.

And now he's being charged with 2nd degree murder.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11...r-report-says/

On the bright side, at least a trial will allow all the facts to come out.

Well let's hope it's a fair trial. Too bad the attacker isn't alive though. I hate these kinds of self defense cases where we don't know who's in the right

Does anyone else have the feeling that no matter what happens, someone is going to eventually kill Zimmerman?

Th justice system caved and will try to make an example of zimmerman, guilty or not. There afraid of race riots and Zimmerman is screwed no matter how this ends up. The riot till they cave mentality is scary, i dont feel much sympathy for zimmrman but i dont want thios becoming a new precedent. If martin was white nobody would care. If both men were black then nobody would care. 100 blacks are killd by blacks each day. No media exposure. One white dude guns down a black guy and its all the news talks about.

I have to give MAJOR props to Trevon's mom. Saw a bit of her interview this morning and she basically said all she wants is an apology. She believes "this was an accident, a situation that got out of hand and Mr. Zimmerman couldn't turn back the clock".

If it was my kid, I'd want this guys head on a block. End of discussion. The fact that this woman has the ability to understand that may have been an accident is unreal to me.

As for all the racial talk, I don't think Zimmerman is a racist. The Police on the other hand.... Speaking as a white guy who has never experienced racism myself, I feel like had this been a young white kid, the situation would have been dealt with differently. I'm not sure whether it was pure racism by the police (I.E. "its a black kid so we don't care") or whether it was racial profiling (I.E. "A young black kid in a hoodie, I'd be scare too.") I'm not sure. But I do believe that race played a part in how the police handled the case.

Regardless, I'm really pleased that this is going to trial. Guilty or Innocent, both Trevon AND George deserve to have this in a court of law, not just the court of public opinion.

just my 2 cents....

-Z

I think the court of media bias is already tainting the case.

Public opinion has already decided Zimmerman is guilty, facts are pretty much irrelevant at this point.

It's funny, people for Zimmerman are claiming he invoked the "Stand your Ground" (or something to that effect) Doctrine when he confronted Martin; but wouldn't the kid be doing the same thing to a stranger who was obviously following him for a few blocks? It just worked out that Zimmerman had a gun on him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condemning the guy, not at least until the facts get out there, but that got me thinking.

Zimmrman could have avoided the fight by not giving chase,
The kid couldve avoided getting shot by not bashing his head in,

It's a real mess. Glad I live and work in Idaho.

Zimmerman's story is that he had lost sight of Martin, and started to make his way back to his vehicle then Martin confronted him.

New picture of his wounds and bond hearing.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimm...9#.T5Gp3NWz58E

I'll let this article speak for itself on how people will exploit things

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/16/opinio...ase/index.html

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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/16/op...ase/index.html

how about now?

Go figure, the author is a criminal defense lawyer from illinois.

Looks like some of the witnesses have changed their stories recently.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/23/...their-stories/