Aliens M41A
 

Now i appreciate that the M41A pulse rifle is fictional. But i was wondering how it got the moniker of Pulse RIFLE, when it fires the 10x24mm round, which would technically make it a sub machine gun, since the 10x24 is a pistol cartridge.
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Somebody didn't do their research and went with a name that sounds cool, it's that simple. Doesn't matter anyway because it's a science fiction action movie. Try not to lose any sleep over it.

It fires fictional ammo that is supposed to be a caseless rifle cartridge with a 10mm projectile.

Rifles firing pistol cartridges is nothing new though, been around since the 1800's.

I take it you mean the HK 33/53 series

maybe it is 10mm rifle ammo thats beastly. You cant assume they used just existing ammo types.

In the (semi) canonical "Aliens" novels, it was explained that the 10mm pulse rifle cartridges are longer, lighter, and higher-velocity than the 10mm pistol rounds fired by the Colonial Marines' sidearms, even though the projectile widths are the same. One of the books - I can't remember which - specifically said that the 10mm pulse rifle and pistol ammo were not interchangeable.

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Yeah, maybe it is spam. Who knows. Or maybe this guys doesn't know what an HK33/53 is

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Don't forget, definitions change. In the 1870s .45 / 11mm black powder rifle cartridges like the .45-70 or .450 Martini-Henry were considered the new small caliber, high velocity wonder rounds.

Well the fact that most people don't actually say 9x19mm. They say 9mm, or a 10mm cause it's easy and it's automatically a handgun round because of the context. It's the same with rifle caliber where we say 5.56mm. I mean if you are going with numbers just comparing the first number of course the number 5 is smaller than 10. A lot of time, people forget about the second number that comes after the X.

In Aliens, they don't call it just a machine gun or even a smg. They called it a "rifle" so we could assume it's rifle caliber and 10mm is big, but since it's caseless, it shouldn't be a problem. Not to mention the 20mm pump action grenade launcher with grenades that can deliver a hell of a bang

I was actually referring to rifles that fired pistol cartridges. Lever actions and carbines. It's not like it's never happened before.

Cartridges really shouldn't even be referred to as "n.nn mm x nn mm". Most have some sort of designation. The 7.62x39mm should actually be referred to as the "7.62mm M43".

I've never heard anyone refer to the Russia round by that designation outside a tech book. Everyone I've come across always say the full number.


And I just realize that the title of this thread. It's not M41A, it's M41A1.

[quote=Excalibur;21780]I've never heard anyone refer to the Russia round by that designation outside a tech book. Everyone I've come across always say the full number.


Im going to have to agree with the above quote. I have always seen it written in full number. For example there are alot of 9mm out their...so is it 9x18 or 9x19 or could it be a 9x23. So you kind of need all the information.

[quote=Spades of Columbia;21788]Aren't there multiple cartridges that are 9x23? Bergmann-Bayard, Largo, IMI?

Sure, but the most common 9mm round is the 9x19.

Welly yeah but my point was even when you say "9 x n mm" instead of just "9mm" it's still not specific enough.

You don't need to be specific unless you have to be. If I go to a gun store and ask for a 9mm handgun, the clerk would point to almost every single gun under the counter. There just aren't a lot of guns in common use that fires other 9mm type rounds