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Excalibur 02-02-2011 01:32 AM

Old story that still baffles me
 
It's almost sad that a US Agency like the ATF that prides itself in being very good at their job can really be complete utter morons and dicks and can't tell a toy from the real thing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8-ePGqBmM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPx_k...eature=related

mpe2010 02-04-2011 01:27 AM

I am surprised at the stupidity of the ATF. I knew they weren't the smartest people around but after this, just wow.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-04-2011 02:50 AM

Ave McVeigh

Excalibur 02-04-2011 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 25158)
Ave McVeigh

Who is this?

ManiacallyChallenged 02-04-2011 09:59 AM

Oh noooooooo!
You know a 5.56 hits hardest when it's winging out of a 6mm barrel. :rolleyes:

I actually must applaud the news anchors in that first clip for not buying wholesale into the ATF's bullshit. :) Thanks Alexis for not being a ditz!

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-04-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 25169)
Who is this?

It's Latin for "Hail McVeigh", as in Timothy McVeigh.

Excalibur 02-04-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 25180)
It's Latin for "Hail McVeigh", as in Timothy McVeigh.

As in the Oklahoma City Bomber? What does he have to do with this topic and why are you hailing him?



Anyway, about Airsoft, being a former player with still some interests, any Airsoft rifle is essentially an empty shell with a special motor the connects to an "inner" barrel that is hidden within the actual barrel of the rifle you see on the outside. A battery powers the motor and when loaded with a magazine, which is also a shell that is designed to carry the bbs, they fire via compressed air. You take all that out and you get pretty much a hollow shell that looks like a real gun. There is no space inside or too much space to drop in an actual bolt carrier, or firing pin and trigger assembly and the "barrel" is just a fake.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-04-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 25181)
As in the Oklahoma City Bomber? What does he have to do with this topic and why are you hailing him?

His target was the ATF. It's a joke.

Excalibur 02-04-2011 10:23 PM

I don't remember much about the guy's intention except that he killed a lot of innocent people.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-05-2011 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 25198)
I don't remember much about the guy's intention except that he killed a lot of innocent people.

Gallows humor is not for everyone.

Edit: His motivation was retribution for the innocent lives lost at Ruby Ridge and Mount Carmel. A big part of the tragedy was that there was a day care center in the building. Theories abound about him being assisted by Clinton administration agent provocateurs (John Doe #2) with the intention of gaining support and funding for government action against militia/patriot/right wing nationalist organizations.

k9870 02-05-2011 03:24 AM

MacVeigh Got off easy with lethal injection, he deserved a much more painful death. And even jokingly supporting a terrorist is not cool.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-05-2011 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 25203)
MacVeigh Got off easy with lethal injection, he deserved a much more painful death. And even jokingly supporting a terrorist is not cool.

Satire is lost on you.

Also I'd debate whether or not the label of "terrorist" would apply to him. He blew up a government building to kill government agents, he wasn't trying to indiscriminately kill civilians.

Zulu Two Six 02-05-2011 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 25204)
Satire is lost on you.

Also I'd debate whether or not the label of "terrorist" would apply to him. He blew up a government building to kill government agents, he wasn't trying to indiscriminately kill civilians.

oh, he just killed government agents? that's fine then. just give him a stern warning and send him off with a lolipop to make sure he wont do it again.

are you fucking serious burt?

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-05-2011 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulu Two Six (Post 25205)
oh, he just killed government agents? that's fine then. just give him a stern warning and send him off with a lolipop to make sure he wont do it again.

are you fucking serious burt?

I never said what he did was ok, I said it wasn't terrorism.

predator20 02-05-2011 05:33 AM

I'm locking this for now. If another mod wants to unlock it, I'll have no problem with it.


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