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Excalibur 10-14-2021 04:40 PM

Old School AR Build
 
Just finished the "retro" look

https://i.ibb.co/0s6S4xS/245015836-3...24545429-n.jpg

MT2008 10-17-2021 01:44 PM

Nice! What upper/lower are those? Is that a real Colt N1 CAR stock, or the Brownell's clone version?

Side note: My next AR clone is also a retro build, but a specific type: It's an M4A1 which replicates the look of the weapons from late-90s/early-2000s action films (e.g. "Air Force One"). Right now, I have a Colt 6920 upper that I bought from Brownell's fitted with a C-More CTAC red dot sight; I next need to find an N1 CAR stock. (I'd prefer an original, but will buy the Brownell's clone if I have to.)

Rockwolf66 10-20-2021 04:01 AM

Nice.

I found a Colt 723 clone upper for my AR15 pistol. I'm not sure if I should find an Appropriate mount for an Aimpoint or get a clone of the old Colt Scope. I like the old school colt scopes but for the price an Aimpoint is slightly cheaper and easier to find.

MT2008 10-20-2021 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 45316)
Nice.

I found a Colt 723 clone upper for my AR15 pistol. I'm not sure if I should find an Appropriate mount for an Aimpoint or get a clone of the old Colt Scope. I like the old school colt scopes but for the price an Aimpoint is slightly cheaper and easier to find.

Where did you find your Colt 723 upper (what manufacturer)? If you want my advice: I'd go with one of those Colt scope clones that Brownell's is offering for now. You can get a good discount if you know where to look (people post the codes on Arfcom), whereas an old-school Aimpoint is probably gonna cost you no matter what, since they're out of production.

I debated doing a Colt 723 or 727 build (especially after seeing Larry Vickers' 723 SFOD-D clone), but ultimately decided instead to tackle a1990s/early-2000s movie M4 as my next clone project because Brownell's had a sale on the 14.5" Colt 6920 uppers. This will be my second movie gun clone, after my "Sicario" Daniel Defense M4A1.

Rockwolf66 10-21-2021 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 45317)
Where did you find your Colt 723 upper (what manufacturer)? If you want my advice: I'd go with one of those Colt scope clones that Brownell's is offering for now. You can get a good discount if you know where to look (people post the codes on Arfcom), whereas an old-school Aimpoint is probably gonna cost you no matter what, since they're out of production.

I debated doing a Colt 723 or 727 build (especially after seeing Larry Vickers' 723 SFOD-D clone), but ultimately decided instead to tackle a1990s/early-2000s movie M4 as my next clone project because Brownell's had a sale on the 14.5" Colt 6920 uppers. This will be my second movie gun clone, after my "Sicario" Daniel Defense M4A1.

Correction it's a 733 upper. I'm not sure who made it. There are no manufacturers marking on it. Possibly a good thing as when I got it there was a CAR-15 flash hider rockset on it. I found that out after I cut said flash hider off. Thankfully the threads were fine. The receiver is 'A2 spec so it is sort of a frankenupper in any case. I bought it because I wanted a retro style upper to test out. So far the thing is Impressivly accurate for having 'A2 Irons. The only thing it chokes on is Russian steel cased 5.56 with some sort of nasty coating on it that clogs the chamber.

MT2008 10-21-2021 11:10 PM

In other news: I received my replica N1 CAR stock from Brownell's today. It turns out that it doesn't fit my DPMS lower. I didn't realize this, but DPMS buffer tubes are apparently commercial spec, not mil-spec. So, for now, I'm gonna have to wait on actually using the CAR stock until I can buy a Colt 6920 mil-spec everything lower (which is preferable, anyway), ideally with an "LE"-prefix serial number.

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 45318)
Correction it's a 733 upper. I'm not sure who made it. There are no manufacturers marking on it. Possibly a good thing as when I got it there was a CAR-15 flash hider rockset on it. I found that out after I cut said flash hider off. Thankfully the threads were fine. The receiver is 'A2 spec so it is sort of a frankenupper in any case. I bought it because I wanted a retro style upper to test out. So far the thing is Impressivly accurate for having 'A2 Irons. The only thing it chokes on is Russian steel cased 5.56 with some sort of nasty coating on it that clogs the chamber.

Ah, that makes sense (hence your reference to doing a pistol build). Have you checked the receiver markings inside and out, or just outside?

What's the brand of your Russian ammo (I assume not Wolf)?

Rockwolf66 10-23-2021 01:54 AM

There is a "D99**2" Imprinted on the front sight, that's it. I have no idea who made it. It does shoot rather well once properly sighted in.

As for the Russian ammunition it looks like it's Tula. it's the stuff that comes in that white box of garbage.

Excalibur 11-20-2021 06:38 AM

Alright gents, this is pretty much the FINAL form of my Delta Carbine Black Hawk Down inspired rifle

http://www.imfdb.org/images/5/53/Exc...27sretroAR.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/6e/Exc...ARflipside.jpg

https://youtu.be/5ri8GjgcBuY


Long story is this rifle USED to be a S&W M&P 15 SPORT. I just swap the upper with a fixed carry handle I got somewhere. The rail is actually meant for an AR-10, it even says so on the side. That's why it seems too long for the carry handle.

The stock is Brownell's

I didn't want to get an A1 grip because I plan to actually shoot this a lot and the older grips just don't have the angle I like

Jcordell 11-22-2021 04:22 AM

Ok so now somebody to build Vietnam era rifle. My first m16a1 was made by hydramatic not colt. I have probably told everyone here that haven't I. Very neat..

MT2008 11-24-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 45375)
Alright gents, this is pretty much the FINAL form of my Delta Carbine Black Hawk Down inspired rifle

http://www.imfdb.org/images/5/53/Exc...27sretroAR.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/6e/Exc...ARflipside.jpg

https://youtu.be/5ri8GjgcBuY


Long story is this rifle USED to be a S&W M&P 15 SPORT. I just swap the upper with a fixed carry handle I got somewhere. The rail is actually meant for an AR-10, it even says so on the side. That's why it seems too long for the carry handle.

The stock is Brownell's

I didn't want to get an A1 grip because I plan to actually shoot this a lot and the older grips just don't have the angle I like

Really nice - although you didn't want to use the A1E1-style upper? You could have bought one from Brownell's, and it would have matched the receiver style of the Colt 723 carbines that Delta/CAG used during the late-1980s and early-1990s. Plus, I feel like it's gonna be annoying to shoot that gun without a brass deflector.

As for the grip: That's easily replaceable if you have a long enough screwdriver (I swap out pistol grips on my AR lowers all the time). If I were you, I'd buy an A1 or A2 grip for display, and then put on that Magpul grip only when you take the rifle to the range.


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