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Spartan198 12-13-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 37149)
So basically, if you can identify the weapon system and the platform, then do so

What I was bringing up was that the author had screencaps identifying platforms without any weapon systems, for example:

http://www.imfdb.org/images/0/0a/R2B-B2.jpg

AFAIK, nothing carried by the above B-2 is in IMFDB's scope, since we don't deal with JDAMs and whatnot.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/4/41/R2B-Dokdo.jpg

I don't see any weapon systems to identify on the ROKS Dokdo here.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/f/f4/R2B-F5-F4.jpg

I've been up close and personal with (and even inside the cockpits of) countless roadside displays like the F-5 and F-4 in this shot and never once have any of them had any actual armaments on them.

funkychinaman 12-13-2012 09:22 PM

I used to put those under "Trivia," or "Miscellanea"

commando552 12-13-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 37150)
http://www.imfdb.org/images/4/41/R2B-Dokdo.jpg

I don't see any weapon systems to identify on the ROKS Dokdo here.

The ROKS Dokdo has a Goalkeeper CIWS on the bow, which has a GAU-8/A Avenger 30mm cannon in it (same gun that is used on the A-10):

http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/64/Goa...ampbeltown.jpg

Evil Tim 12-14-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 37150)
http://www.imfdb.org/images/0/0a/R2B-B2.jpg

AFAIK, nothing carried by the above B-2 is in IMFDB's scope, since we don't deal with JDAMs and whatnot.

Yeah, that image you could easily put under a section for the F-15's M61 Vulcan and just say it's a B-2 Spirit in the caption. Picking shots that let you say something interesting about either the weapon itself or the other things in the shot is part of making a page, IMO.

The two display planes, yeah, they should be filed under trivia, the carrier you can see the CIWS on the bow so it should be listed under that.

Spartan198 12-16-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 37153)
The ROKS Dokdo has a Goalkeeper CIWS on the bow, which has a GAU-8/A Avenger 30mm cannon in it (same gun that is used on the A-10):

http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/64/Goa...ampbeltown.jpg

Really? I thought that was just a fourth helicopter from an odd angle.

commando552 12-16-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 37190)
Really? I thought that was just a fourth helicopter from an odd angle.

In the screenshot you can make out the horizontal search Radar on the diagonal outrigger, along with the forward facing tracking radar above the gun itself. I have seen a few Goalkeepers up close so recognised it easily. However, and easier way to ID it is to just google the ship and you can see that it is a CIWS and not a helicopter:
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.co...Frontal_lg.jpg

funkychinaman 12-17-2012 05:46 AM

There are actually two Goalkeeper mounts, another is on the rear of the island. I'm guessing the bow mount will have to go if the ROKN ever gets F-35Bs for the ship.

Evil Tim 12-17-2012 06:23 AM

And in the caption you can point out it also has a visible RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile box launcher on top of the island.

commando552 12-17-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 37199)
There are actually two Goalkeeper mounts, another is on the rear of the island. I'm guessing the bow mount will have to go if the ROKN ever gets F-35Bs for the ship.

I reckon there is enough room to keep the one on the bow. Assuming they would have to put in a ski jump for the F35Bdown the port side, would end up looking like the British ''Invincible'' class.

funkychinaman 12-17-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 37203)
I reckon there is enough room to keep the one on the bow. Assuming they would have to put in a ski jump for the F35Bdown the port side, would end up looking like the British ''Invincible'' class.

That's the thing, I don't think they'll go the ski-jump route. If these are supposed to be amphibious assault ships, a ski jump would block off a lot of real estate on the deck. The US Navy doesn't go with ski jumps on their assault ships for exactly that reason. (And ever since I was a kid, I've been wondering why no one has ever developed a hydraulic ski jump that folds into the deck when not in use.


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