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Hey Markost, your avatar, does that FM stand for that Argentine military factory?

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 30700)

Comments on online news stories and forums, YouTube, and such are always condemning us for it. I know taking words from random anonymous Internet people (no offense, IMFDB) seriously is probably telling of my less-than-groundbreaking level of intelligence, but those represent a person's opinion just like marching outside a building with a sign in your hand does.

If you admit this, then you aren't stupid. Just a little too addicted to being argumentative. I used to be the same way; as a lonely teenager, I used to waste hours on message boards in debates (probably more than BurtReynoldsMoustache).

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 30700)

how were we supposed to know we'd be fighting them in 20 years? We aren't a nation of psychics who can look into a crystal ball to see who our next enemy will be.

Being psychic has nothing to do with it. Unless you think we needed to be psychic to realize that, in WWII, we were aiding a future enemy (the Soviet Union) against a current enemy (Nazi Germany).

I am familiar enough with realism in American foreign policy to know that considerations of ideology are often irrelevant. We aid state and non-state actors whose ideology is at odds with liberal democracy whenever it suits us.

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 30700)

As far as Libya goes, weren't they on the UN human rights council just prior to Gaddafi turning his army on civilians?

Yes, but the UN is a joke. Many dictatorships have been allowed to chair committees in the UN that are meant to promote human rights - even though these same governments are some of the world's worst human rights violators.

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Originally Posted by mjp28 (Post 29822)

Like the old Italian Army joke "never fired, only dropped once".

Lol, that reminds a lot my grandpa, when he was going to be recruited but he ended working in Alfa Romeo´s aircraft engine factory (well, until it was bombed by american planes and he lost his job), thanks to his mother´s cousin (Giovanni Leone), who had a lot of contacts at that time (lol).

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Originally Posted by FIVETWOSEVEN (Post 30719)

Hey Markost, your avatar, does that FM stand for that Argentine military factory?

yep, the same that made the FAL parts sold to DS Arms some years ago.

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 29855)

That reminds me, my dad has a French MAS-36 bring-back rifle on the shelf. I wrote on the tag "Never been fired, only dropped once." When a customer sees it and doesn't get it, I die a little inside.

Eh, some people don't get good subtile inside jokes or appreciate good scarcasm I guess.....but some do.;)

Looks like a few lucky rebels picked up some goodies after seizing the Bab al-Azizia compound:

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4...rrivesin00.jpg

A golden Dragunov (also seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o5wQZLvVLc)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2...oiaug23g36.jpg

I think I saw a photo in the newspaper yesterday of a rebel with an Aussie SLR.

EDIT: Scrub this; it was a regular FAL.

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Originally Posted by Markit (Post 31887)

So how common are golden AKs and Dragunovs in the world, exactly?

Also looks like a Chinese CQ in his other hand.

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 31893)

So how common are golden AKs and Dragunovs in the world, exactly?

Also looks like a Chinese CQ in his other hand.

Must be nice, gold AKs, armfuls of guns and ammo -but- they did earn it in a way fighting against that nutjob and his personal army.

I hope the Libyans can find some peace now along with trying to....

.... "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".....

It's not always easy or free.

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 31893)

So how common are golden AKs and Dragunovs in the world, exactly?

Also looks like a Chinese CQ in his other hand.

Pretty common in the Middle East I imagine - Saddam had entire caches of them in his palaces, and some of the smaller emirates have been known to give golden guns as gifts. The Mexican drug cartels have also had golden Kalashnikovs and AR-15s.

FPK/PSL:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1827/libyanpsl.jpg

G36KE in action:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6...ng36aug252.jpg

AK-103 with a scope (ACOG?) and a suppressed Beretta:
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8...lak103acog.jpg

AKS-74U:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5043/tripoliaug233.jpg

I like the fact that the Rebels do not rely on self-made weapons exclusively, but also utilize firearms that have been proven to be durable and reliable. Also, Markit's third image: Yay for trigger discipline! Could those be loyalists at the Rixos?