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2wingo 05-13-2013 11:14 PM

"on-duty" vs. "off-duty" police weapons.
 
I notice that these terms get thrown around a lot, and it has raised a few questions:

1.) Are cops not allowed to carry their issued sidearm when not on duty?

2.) Are they obligated to carry only what their department issues them when on duty, or can they also carry their own choice of sidearm?

SPEMack618 05-14-2013 04:03 PM

JCordell can probably shed some more light on this.

However, in my city/county, it isn't so much that the officers aren't allowed to carry their issue piece while off duty, in fact, all of our Deputies are mandated to carry off duty, but just a matter of convience.

The Dept. issues the Glock 17 and the Glock 22, several Deputies carry Government Models, and one carries a S&W Model 13, loaded with the "FBI Load."

Those are big, full sized guns. Kinda hard to carry when not wearing a full duty belt.

So, hence the off duty piece.

Excalibur 05-14-2013 05:52 PM

I asked my buddy in my local PD. He said that to carry any personal weapon for off duty, you would have to qualify with it just as you would you on duty gun. His department uses the Glock 22/23s and his off duty, depending on weather is the Glock 29 or the S&W Bodyguard .380

2wingo 05-14-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 39056)
I asked my buddy in my local PD. He said that to carry any personal weapon for off duty, you would have to qualify with it just as you would you on duty gun. His department uses the Glock 22/23s and his off duty, depending on weather is the Glock 29 or the S&W Bodyguard .380

What exactly constitutes "qualifying?"

SPEMack618 05-14-2013 11:16 PM

Depends on the department and the officer's job.

Generally, it isn't that much, but enough to ensure proficiency, sometimes.

Like, I said it varies by department.

I recently got promoted in the Guard. No more squad to lead, instead I work in the S-3 shop.

Our last qualification, I fired 50 rounds from my Beretta for no score, just shoot the weapon and show I can reload.

The last time before that when I qualified, I shot for score like I was shooting for an expert medal again., which was only 30 rounds, but for score.

funkychinaman 05-14-2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2wingo (Post 39061)
What exactly constitutes "qualifying?"

Demonstrating competence with the weapon.

Excalibur 05-15-2013 01:39 AM

And most cops would just go through the motions of qualifications. They would score the LOWEST possible of points that is needed to pass and then move onto their careers. Some, which I like, are perfectionists and they won't leave until they score the highest.

2wingo 05-15-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 39064)
And most cops would just go through the motions of qualifications. They would score the LOWEST possible of points that is needed to pass and then move onto their careers. Some, which I like, are perfectionists and they won't leave until they score the highest.

Could an officer attempt qualification with any firearm, say, a single-action revolver?

SPEMack618 05-15-2013 11:33 PM

Again, depends on the department. Generally, you have to qualify with what you carry.

Some more rural departments let their officers carry anything, assuming they can qualify with it.

I have a picture of my county's Sheriff and his two deputies, circa 1932, and one of them has a Colt M-1873 of some sort.

AdAstra2009 05-16-2013 04:08 AM

Everything depends on what department your in. My local department for example requires you to carry while you are in the county and that it must be concealed. Also by default you carry your duty weapon off duty unless you opt to qualify with another gun for off duty.


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