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AdAstra2009 01-15-2017 07:53 PM

New handgun and an older handgun
 
Havent bought a gun in a couple years so i bought 2.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/561/31...d29f5913_b.jpg
S&W 5906 earlier model with squared off trigger guard, bought it used for $349
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/321/31...cd3b9f6e_b.jpg
Kimber TLE II 10mm NIB for $859

I really like the older 3rd generation Smith & Wessons so the 5906 was a must have. I've been looking for a 10mm for a while and I was going to get a Colt Delta Elite or a S&W 1006. Wrote off the Delta Elite due to the unsupported chamber causing safety issues if firing full powered 10mm (If you can't shoot the full powered loads then why even bother with a 10mm, you might as well get a .40) Ended up not getting a S&W 1006 as they were getting hard to find and the price on them were skyrocketing.

Both guns were acquired from gunbroker.

-sorry for the dark picture quality on the kimber, it doesn't seem very photogenic

S&Wshooter 01-15-2017 08:33 PM

Time to buy a million Mec Gar 17 rounders

StanTheMan 01-15-2017 09:38 PM

Nice ones, especially the 5906, looks good for a 'used' piece. Though I'm a wheelgun man through-and-through I too like the third-gen Smith autos, particularly would like to try and get a 4506/4566 at some point.

SPEMack618 01-16-2017 02:24 AM

Darn. You got that better than I got my slighty beat up 910.

And ditto to what S&W said about the MecGar mags.

Only way to go. And much cheaper than the factory 15 rounders.

AdAstra2009 01-16-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StanTheMan (Post 43260)
Nice ones, especially the 5906, looks good for a 'used' piece. Though I'm a wheelgun man through-and-through I too like the third-gen Smith autos, particularly would like to try and get a 4506/4566 at some point.

yup, got one of those puppies too. Actually use it as my bedside gun.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/438/31...4d6a9251_b.jpg

S&Wshooter 01-16-2017 09:28 AM

The only downsides to a 4506 are that it's heavy (it's very much a belt dragger), and the mags are no longer made and are like $50. Surprisingly, holsters (even left-handed) and grips are super easy to find. I have my 4506-1 not a foot from me as I type this, unholstered on the floor as I am away from home (usual bedside is an FNX with mounted light).

I definitely agree one of the 3rd gen wondernines is a must, if one wants an "old school" S&W auto, as they're basically the easiest to find and high quality new mags are relatively common. Even a budget gun like a 915 would be awesome. the 1st and 2nd gen guns are cool as hell, but not hard-use ready workhorses like the 3rd gens since that BEAUTIFUL black finish they are typically seen with is prone to holster wear and blemishing (also if you break a part you're SOL), and the triggers aren't that great

I've had 6 S&W autos so far (39-2, 459, 645, 915, 6906, 4506-1), gave one away and had to sell another. If I buy another .40, it's going to be a 4006 as they're decently common here since they seem to have been popular (you still see them, now and again) with Houston PD and Harris County Sheriff's Dept.

Jcordell 01-17-2017 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 43270)
The only downsides to a 4506 are that it's heavy (it's very much a belt dragger), and the mags are no longer made and are like $50. Surprisingly, holsters (even left-handed) and grips are super easy to find. I have my 4506-1 not a foot from me as I type this, unholstered on the floor as I am away from home (usual bedside is an FNX with mounted light).

ProMag is still making both 8 and 10 round magazines for the 4506 (all variants) and the 645. For those who might not be aware of this. The magazines in the photo appear to be all ProMag. They aren't S&W magazines, but the quality seems okay. I recently purchased a couple for my 4586 and 4516 through Midway. The mags stick out from the 4516, but they work which is all I want because they're for the range. I have a few genuine S&W magazines for both models.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/15...6-45-acp-steel

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/...1/PC270003.jpg
http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/...psv0zygiza.jpg

S&Wshooter 01-17-2017 05:43 AM

Pro mag doesn't make mags, they make defective Pez dispensers. I have a 10 S&W factory mags, always looking for more

AdAstra2009 01-17-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcordell (Post 43277)
ProMag is still making both 8 and 10 round magazines for the 4506 (all variants) and the 645. For those who might not be aware of this. The magazines in the photo appear to be all ProMag. They aren't S&W magazines, but the quality seems okay. I recently purchased a couple for my 4586 and 4516 through Midway. The mags stick out from the 4516, but they work which is all I want because they're for the range. I have a few genuine S&W magazines for both models.

Yup with the exception of the magazine closest to the camera and the one in the gun itself the rest are pro mags. Haven't had any problems with them myself not that I've really tried running them to failure.

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Pro mag doesn't make mags, they make defective Pez dispensers.
lol

SPEMack618 01-18-2017 01:00 AM

I have a love hate relationship with Pro-Mag. Cheap products but sometimes horrendously made cheap products.

I wouldn't carry one on a duty weapon or for my conceal carry piece, but I have some for range trips.

AdAstra2009 01-20-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 43290)
I have a love hate relationship with Pro-Mag. Cheap products but sometimes horrendously made cheap products.

I wouldn't carry one on a duty weapon or for my conceal carry piece, but I have some for range trips.

First AR-15 I bought when I was 19 and I bought a Bushmaster XM-15, I wanted to buy some 20 rounders before the ban came into effect in Maryland bringing it back to 10 rounds. I picked up 2 20 round promags (polymer waffle style) and kept one of them loaded. By the end of the year the lips had cracked and it became a 19 rounder!

StanTheMan 01-29-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 43268)
yup, got one of those puppies too. Actually use it as my bedside gun.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/438/31...4d6a9251_b.jpg

Nice! Beautifully well met there.

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 43270)
The only downsides to a 4506 are that it's heavy (it's very much a belt dragger), and the mags are no longer made and are like $50. Surprisingly, holsters (even left-handed) and grips are super easy to find. I have my 4506-1 not a foot from me as I type this, unholstered on the floor as I am away from home (usual bedside is an FNX with mounted light).

Yeah I know they have some heft, though for that kind of piece I don't mind that so much. And I know I'm not the only one. I'm sad they don't still make them, I agree with what FCM said on the site in a talk page - I too think there there is still something of a market for all-metal autos like them.

I've definitely heard mixed things about Pro-Mag, and I know actual factory mags are growing ever tougher and more expensive to get. Eh, I could probably deal - Keep in mind this would be very mainly a 'fun' piece anyway.

Nice ones there, JCordell, BTW. I really like the 86/66 'size' perhaps a tad more than the full-size, but either/or. Or both, of course. :)

How about the Kimber? I've shot some of them myself and liked them, though I've always heard mixed takes on them as well.

S&Wshooter 01-31-2017 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StanTheMan (Post 43371)
How about the Kimber? I've shot some of them myself and liked them, though I've always heard mixed takes on them as well.

The only Kimber I've shot that wasn't 50 pounds of shit in a 25 pound sack was the Warrior



http://i.imgur.com/xHpO6MX.jpg

AdAstra2009 01-31-2017 09:40 PM

Gun is dead accurate though I've had alot of failures to feed with hollowpoints through it. I only have 100 rounds through it and the manual says to fire 500 rounds of 220gr through it for break in. Very tight gun and well made.

S&Wshooter 02-01-2017 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 43380)
Gun is dead accurate though I've had alot of failures to feed with hollowpoints through it. I only have 100 rounds through it and the manual says to fire 500 rounds of 220gr through it for break in. Very tight gun and well made.

I hope they got the tolerances right on yours, a lot of the problems people have with Kimbers is their tolerances are sometimes tighter than they can reliably produce (designed to x spec but the manufacturer can only get to y spec). Does it seem more reinforced/sturdy/built up than a regular 1911?

StanTheMan 02-05-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 43380)
Gun is dead accurate though I've had alot of failures to feed with hollowpoints through it. I only have 100 rounds through it and the manual says to fire 500 rounds of 220gr through it for break in. Very tight gun and well made.

My 'Uncle' Roger had similar trouble with that on his .45 TLE as well, hollowpoints would often misfeed. But FMJs, no problem at all. Hm. In this case I wondered if a different chambering had any effect there or not, as I really had little feedback about non-.45 variants.. appears not though. I will say despite that it did feel pretty solid and tight and that every field strip he did on it (which he did all the time) it looked fine, no rust or serious problem spots that I recall. But many times I've heard and seen the kind of stuff like what S&W posted above, so.. bah.


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