Videogame guns can be made up!!!
Usually I just ignore the video game section of IMFDB like a red headed stepchild, but I am tired of people claiming a gun in a video game as so and so real-life gun. When you go and look at the video game gun in question multiple cases it bares a superficial resemblance to the alleged real life gun if that. It makes a mockery of IMFDB and hurts it's credibility in my opinion.
examples: This entire page! http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Fallout_3#10mm_SMG There are some exceptions on this page but for the most part, they are made up. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark These aren't the only ones, I could go on and on It just seems that a lot of people who make these video game IMFDB pages can't get it through their head that the video game designers are able to just make up a gun and draw it on the computer. No, they think that it HAS to be a real gun. They look at the fake video game gun and instead of realizing it is a make believe gun they look for the real life gun that it looks most like and declare that it is so and so gun. rant over. |
The Deus Ex guns look to be based on real weapons to me
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I'd differentiate between that and really made-up guns (eg the laser and plasma cannon which are *not* on the Human Revolution page). Also, Human Revolution has some actual, real guns in it which could be screencapped (mostly on magazine covers in the game world). |
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Yeah, with the handgun it was already there as something it looked even less like (I forget what) and I just changed the description to say it was a fake weapon which looked rather like the idea was "futuristic M1911." Hence just using an picture of an original M1911 rather than any specific version. If that read as "this is an M1911" then mea culpa, that certainly wasn't the idea.
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Just to get back to this now I'm not posting on my lunchbreak;
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The main reason I partially rewrote that article* was it fell into a trap that really bugs me, that of talking about fictional weapons like they're real and including mostly in-fiction information about them. *I'm planning a second rewrite anyway if I every get around to screencapping it. Quote:
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As above, I agree with you that saying a fake gun is the real gun it most closely resembles is off-limits. On the other hand, identifying that it shares elements with a real design I'd say is ok if it looks believable enough to fool a layman and it is said in no uncertain terms that it is not a real weapon. Just to give an example I like using: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...tuff/Eryx2.jpg If this appeared in something, the overall design is believable enough that a layman would conceivably ask what kind of gun it is. Obviously, the answer is not "it's a Winchester Model 1895" because it's not, and it's not "it's a Lee-Enfield No.4" because it's also not. It is, however, both of those. So, you cover it under the weapon's fictional name, and explain that it's actually a hybrid design made up of two real-life weapons. Obviously, drawing the line between "made of recognisable real-life weapons" and "heap of random gun parts" is never going to be easy, and I think we should encourage people to bring these things to the forums so they can be discussed before they go up on pages if they're not sure about them. Trying to create a rule that covers all situations will either leave us with a system open to but-the-rules-say-so abuse or one so restrictive it removes authentic-looking but fictional designs that we should be telling people aren't real, such as Leon's "Silver Ghost" handgun in Resident Evil 4 (though the designer helped us out there by outright saying what he based it on). Remember, we're here to field "what kind of gun is that?" Part of that is to tell people when something isn't real if they could reasonably be fooled by it. |
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