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BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-12-2011 08:34 PM

Micro Uzi/Uzi Pistol
 
Right now the official policy of IMFDB is to label all Micro Uzis and Uzi Pistols as just "Micro Uzi". This goes against the spirit and intent of the site and the principles of truth and accuracy. I would like to be given the go ahead to go through the site and attempt to determine which appearances are genuine Micro Uzis and which ones are Uzi Pistols converted to full auto.

As far as I know, if it has a compensator and a hinge on the back for a stock, it's a Micro Uzi. If it has neither, it's a converted Uzi Pistol. If it has just the hinge, it's a converted Uzi Pistol with a folding stock installed. If I'm wrong, I welcome any corrections.

An additional note: The Uzi Pistol was introduced in 1984, the Micro Uzi in 1986. Any appearance before 1986 is 100% for sure an Uzi Pistol.

predator20 04-12-2011 09:16 PM

On some screencaps you may not be able to tell. Why complicate? I don't know anything about Micro Uzi's, but if the folding stock can be added, so can a compensator.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-12-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 27604)
On some screencaps you may not be able to tell. Why complicate? I don't know anything about Micro Uzi's, but if the folding stock can be added, so can a compensator.

If you can't tell, then it would be safer to assume Uzi Pistol over Micro Uzi. The compensator is integral to the barrel, so the entire barrel would have to be swapped out. And if one can tell, then one should properly identify. Anything that has no stock and no compensator is an Uzi Pistol. There are even some photographs here on the site that are labeled "Micro Uzi" when you can clearly see "Uzi Pistol" stamped into the receiver.

predator20 04-12-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 27608)
If you can't tell, then it would be safer to assume Uzi Pistol over Micro Uzi. The compensator is integral to the barrel, so the entire barrel would have to be swapped out. And if one can tell, then one should properly identify. Anything that has no stock and no compensator is an Uzi Pistol. There are even some photographs here on the site that are labeled "Micro Uzi" when you can clearly see "Uzi Pistol" stamped into the receiver.

Yes and what do they say in front of that "Micro".

Also I don't get what you mean by the compensator being integral to the barrel. Compensators are usually added to the front of the barrel. If you're talking about barrel porting. That's not a compensator.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-12-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 27609)
Yes and what do they say in front of that "Micro".

Also I don't get what you mean by the compensator being integral to the barrel. Compensators are usually added to the front of the barrel. If you're talking about barrel porting. That's not a compensator.

Uzi Pistol
http://i.imgur.com/hOr9Y.gif

Micro Uzi
http://i.imgur.com/zWsjH.jpg

Note the differences in length from the front of the receiver to the end of the muzzle.

predator20 04-12-2011 11:12 PM

You said this site. "Micro" Uzi Pistol
http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/1/1f/MicroUziPistol.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/2/22/M...istolStock.jpg
The one you show above with the bent trigger guard, that's barrel porting

BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-13-2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 27611)
You said this site. "Micro" Uzi Pistol
http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/1/1f/MicroUziPistol.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/2/22/M...istolStock.jpg
The one you show above with the bent trigger guard, that's barrel porting

What is the stamping on the bottom one behind the folded stock? It looks like that one might not even be of Israeli origin. Also why is "Micro" not as prominently stamped in there? I didn't notice it before because of how faint it is.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-13-2011 12:37 AM

Also I just noticed that the Uzi Pistol has a different shaped grip.

predator20 04-13-2011 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 27612)
What is the stamping on the bottom one behind the folded stock? It looks like that one might not even be of Israeli origin. Also why is "Micro" not as prominently stamped in there? I didn't notice it before because of how faint it is.

I think Action Arms or Vector Arms.

The faint Micro markings, not sure. Maybe it was added later, but not why it would be.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 04-13-2011 01:35 AM

Here's something interesting.

Official Israeli manufactured Micro Uzi from IMI.
http://i.imgur.com/zWsjH.jpg

"Micro Uzi Pistol" of unknown origin.
http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/2/22/M...istolStock.jpg

Notice where the folding stock hinge is attached to the receiver. The first one is very clean. The second one is very rough, as if the stock had been crudely welded on as an afterthought or modification.


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