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k9870 11-16-2010 07:12 PM

The character was against guns but it was more a less a plot device, IMO. Reember, the show was about him making inventions and using his mind. If MacGyver carried a gun, well, this would be the show formula.

1. bad guys do something.
2. macgyver sees this.
3. "Bang"
4. credits

Elapsed time: 3 minutes.

Spades of Columbia 11-16-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 22109)
We talked about this on the IMFDB page for that show. Even though Richard Dean Anderson is/was an HCI/Brady Campaign member, and even though his character in the show refused to use guns, "MacGyver" didn't really have any political statements against guns or gun ownership. That's the difference between it and almost every other movie/TV show we've listed so far.

I dont know...i remember a episode where a bald eagle gets shot at the begining and believing it to be pretty open about hunters and civilians with firearms being a bad thing.

MT2008 11-16-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 22110)
The character was against guns but it was more a less a plot device, IMO. Reember, the show was about him making inventions and using his mind. If MacGyver carried a gun, well, this would be the show formula.

1. bad guys do something.
2. macgyver sees this.
3. "Bang"
4. credits

Elapsed time: 3 minutes.

That's the thing I like about "Burn Notice"...Michael Westen comes up with all sorts of crazy improvised weapons and schemes to defeat the bad guys, but he isn't so self-righteous that he never uses guns. "Burn Notice" is pretty much the show that I wish "MacGyver" could have been (aside from the protagonist's distaste for guns, it was otherwise a pretty cool show).

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Originally Posted by Spades of Columbia (Post 22111)
I dont know...i remember a episode where a bald eagle gets shot at the begining and believing it to be pretty open about hunters and civilians with firearms being a bad thing.

Hmmm, point taken then. But as long as the show wasn't constantly and overtly political about guns, I'm still not sure it's fair to classify "MacGyver" as an anti-gun show in the same way as "Liberty Stands Still" or "Strapped" (for example).

Spades of Columbia 11-16-2010 07:36 PM

So...would a...Bowling for columbine be concidered anti-gun. ;)


ooh...and a real one would be "American Gun".

Spades of Columbia 11-16-2010 07:42 PM

Lord of War was off and on Anti gun

I believe all the Leathal Weapons have anti-gun themes

and Witness had a anti-gun speech in it

funkychinaman 11-16-2010 07:43 PM

The Y2K episode of Family Guy had a strangely pro-gun message in the end. (The survivors melted down their guns, and thus were unable to fend off Stewie's mutant offspring.) Strange because the show is otherwise usually pretty liberal.

(And it just dawned on me that Family Guy has been around long enough to actually have a Y2K episode. Wow.)

MT2008 11-16-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spades of Columbia (Post 22115)
Lord of War was off and on Anti gun

I didn't think it was all that anti-gun (besides the line about "There are more gun stores in America than McDonald's"). Deliberately selling weapons to dictators, war lords, and terrorists (knowing exactly how they plan to use the weapons), in violation of arms embargoes, is something I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person can agree is wrong, regardless of where they stand in the American gun control debate.

funkychinaman 11-16-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spades of Columbia (Post 22115)
Lord of War was off and on Anti gun

I believe all the Leathal Weapons have anti-gun themes

and Witness had a anti-gun speech in it

Richard Donner is anti-gun.

k9870 11-16-2010 08:18 PM

Lord of War also showed that the bad guys had to buy illegally from him, they werent strolling into cabelas and coming out with a HK21e.

Spades of Columbia 11-16-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 22117)
I didn't think it was all that anti-gun (besides the line about "There are more gun stores in America than McDonald's"). Deliberately selling weapons to dictators, war lords, and terrorists (knowing exactly how they plan to use the weapons), in violation of arms embargoes, is something I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person can agree is wrong, regardless of where they stand in the American gun control debate.

"Lord of War opens with one of the most impressive and provocative credit sequences in recent memory. Adopting a point-of-view perspective, the camera follows a bullet from its manufacture in an American factory to various ports, then across the globe to a small African village where it is placed in the chamber of a pistol and shot through the skull of a young boy."
-AZRickD-

I was speaking for on the front that the US gets more blame on gun issues and that Nato is alway doing heavy pushing on small arms banning. Plus the movie fail to properly inform the mainstream audiences about the deeper issues.


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