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Excalibur 02-20-2010 05:44 PM

Suppressed Revolvers
 
You can't suppress revolvers right? Because of the open chambers.

k9870 02-20-2010 07:12 PM

The m1895 nagant and russian ots-38 can be supressed. The nagant has its cylinder move forward to seal gap. NO idea how the newer russian wheelgun works.

Markost 02-20-2010 11:15 PM

Yep, the Nagant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0

Zulu Two Six 02-20-2010 11:29 PM

thats just wicked awesome

Yournamehere 02-20-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markost (Post 12155)

Not to be nitpicky, but "Mosin Nagant" is the term for the M91 series of rifles, the Revolver is known as the Nagant M1895.

Excalibur 02-20-2010 11:44 PM

What about in the movie, Once Upon a Time in Mexico? There was a scene where that one chick puts a suppressor on her revolver. The revolver she is using isn't a sealed chamber design right?

Yournamehere 02-21-2010 12:07 AM

As far as I know the M1895 is the only revolver to have a gas seal system, so if it' not that, then no it doesn't have the system and therefore can't be suppressed.

Mazryonh 02-21-2010 12:16 AM

I'm confused. If a sealed cylinder gap for revolvers means that more of the powder charge's gas can be directed to the bullet, rather than being wasted by leaking out the sides of the cylinder, why hasn't the sealed cylinder gap then become standard?

I hear some novice shooters get powder burns if they place a hand near the cylinder gap when firing. A sealed cylinder cap would likely eliminate this hazard.

k9870 02-21-2010 12:41 AM

The sealed gap makes rediculously long and heavy trigger pulls, the nagant has a 17-22 lb pull. Cylinders with a gap work pefectly.


Im wondering how that ots 38 works

Markost 02-21-2010 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 12159)
Not to be nitpicky, but "Mosin Nagant" is the term for the M91 series of rifles, the Revolver is known as the Nagant M1895.

My bad, editing. I´m not really good with russian weapons...

ManiacallyChallenged 02-21-2010 06:02 AM

Yeah, heavy trigger.
I read that even in single action it's still super weighty.

Nyles 02-21-2010 08:20 AM

The single action trigger pull on my 1895 Nagant is heavier than the double action pull on most of my other revolvers. The double action pull is probably 25 lbs. All of this gains maybe 20fps. Plus you have to use special ammo, if you ever see 7.62 x 38mm rounds the bullet is actually crimped inside the case. The mouth gets blown open to seal with the chamber and barrel on firing. Which means it takes alot of force to pop out the fired case, and it doesn't have a very good ejector rod to begin with.

The 1895 Nagant is a super cool collectible, but it's probably the worst mechanically sound service pistol ever. I say mechanically sound only because of the Kenju T-94 and Glisenti 1910.

Excalibur 02-21-2010 05:35 PM

Never heard of the Glisenti 1910 before. I've heard of the T-94, the Japanese pistol that sucked ass

k9870 02-21-2010 06:44 PM

i heard the t94 can go off if you stare at it hard enough

ManiacallyChallenged 02-21-2010 09:18 PM

That history channel episode about Japanese WWII weapons is my favorite thing in the world.
They guy kind of hesitantly pushes the side of the gun, and
BOOM!

Nyles 02-22-2010 06:03 PM

The Glisenti 1910 was a 9mm pistol used by the Italian army in WW1. It was an automatic firing a 9 x 19mm round dimensionally identical to 9mm Luger, but significantly less powerful. The whole left side of the frame is cut away and covered with a plate, like in a revolver, to allow access to the working mechanism.

It's an inherently weak gun. Firing a 9mm Luger round in it can and will blow it up. Even with the right ammo, I wouldn't shoot one.

Excalibur 02-23-2010 05:13 AM

Yesh, reading that, I'd take the Japanese crap gun over this thing that would blow up in your face


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