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predator20 02-10-2010 12:20 AM

Bought a S&W 4505
 
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Picked this 4505 up from my local gun store. All of their pistols were marked down $50 or so. I was surprised to see this there since you mostly see the 4506 stainless model. I handled a SIG P220 two tone that had a better grip than the 4505. But it was $50 more and wasn't as clean. Will definitely get a SIG later. It came with just one mag so a few extras are on the shopping list. Maybe get to shoot it this weekend or the following.

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 12:23 AM

Welcome to the "Owners of badass S&W's" club! Where did you find a friggin' 4505 though?

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 12:28 AM

Was it in the Bargain bin next to the .45 Luger and the prototype .45 BHP (only one ever produced)?

predator20 02-10-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 11718)
Welcome to the "Owners of badass S&W's" club! Where did you find a friggin' 4505 though?

Po Boys Guns and Ammo. The only gun shop we have in our town. Bought it for $550 + tax. I saw one on gunbroker go for $875 and haven't seen another one on there since. I got interested in the 4505 after searching for 4506s and saw that 4505 on gunbroker. Pretty rare gun but list the same price as the 4506 on book of gun values.

predator20 02-10-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 11719)
Was it in the Bargain bin next to the .45 Luger and the prototype .45 BHP (only one ever produced)?

I was also surprised to see two Browning Hi Powers there. One for $500 the other for $530. They also had a FEG HP copy and a Kareen HP copy there too. They don't have a super huge pistol collection. But plenty of variety I guess. One small section of revolvers though.

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 12:40 AM

You only paid $550 plus tax? I paid like $630 for my 4506-1! Goddamit, I got ripped off

predator20 02-10-2010 12:41 AM

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Also S&Wshooter, since I know you love the Beretta 92. :D Here is the Beretta 92FS Inox I bought a month or two back.

predator20 02-10-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 11722)
You only paid $550 plus tax? I paid like $630 for my 4506-1! Goddamit, I got ripped off

Mine only came with one mag and no box or papers. There are a few faint scratches and very slight bluing loss at the end of the muzzle. I think I got a good deal. It was close to $600 with tax.

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 12:51 AM

Someone stole the mag out of the gun earlier in the gunshow, so I had buy all of mine seperate too

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 11723)
Also S&Wshooter, since I know you love the Beretta 92. :D Here is the Beretta 92FS Inox I bought a month or two back.

My computer guy has one just like that...and he uses it as a paperwright because he hates it:D

Yournamehere 02-10-2010 02:19 AM

I like to refer to guns like the 4505 as RBF (rare but functional). That being said, geeze man that is a helluva snag! Got a pretty good deal on it too. If it goes for 875 on GB and you get it for 600, you've done good, especially seeing as how they are so few and far between.

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 11722)
You only paid $550 plus tax? I paid like $630 for my 4506-1! Goddamit, I got ripped off

I don't know what the book value of it is, but in my eyes, yeah you kinda did. I personally wouldn't put down more than 500 bucks on a 4506, especially if they have the funny looking Novak sight as opposed to the adjustable or the early fixed sights. Predator's gun is an obvious exception since it's so rare. While it is all stainless and that usually ups the price, All the S&Ws are pretty low cost guns because they are/were made here in the USA. $630 with sales tax is a ridiculous price but if you REEEEALLY want it, you're sort of blind to cost.

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 11725)
Someone stole the mag out of the gun earlier in the gunshow, so I had buy all of mine seperate too

Buying a gun without a magazine is a whole other story, and don't even begin to tell me what you had to pay for them. I asked a guy who had a 5906 mag for sale at a local store what he wanted and even he told me to brace myself. It was 49 bucks.

Oh yeah nice Italian Inox too, Predator20.

predator20 02-10-2010 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 11727)
I like to refer to guns like the 4505 as RBF (rare but functional). That being said, geeze man that is a helluva snag! Got a pretty good deal on it too. If it goes for 875 on GB and you get it for 600, you've done good, especially seeing as how they are so few and far between.

Yeah it was $875 plus shipping and FFL fees, so I did good. When I saw the price at the gun store I was like holy shit.

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 11727)
I don't know what the book value of it is, but in my eyes, yeah you kinda did. I personally wouldn't put down more than 500 bucks on a 4506, especially if they have the funny looking Novak sight as opposed to the adjustable or the early fixed sights. Predator's gun is an obvious exception since it's so rare. While it is all stainless and that usually ups the price, All the S&Ws are pretty low cost guns because they are/were made here in the USA. $630 with sales tax is a ridiculous price but if you REEEEALLY want it, you're sort of blind to cost..

I've seen some LEO 4506s go for around 350 on gb. 450 to 550 on really clean ones. But if you want a certain gun bad enough, you'll pay just about anything. From what I read on the 4505 in the S&W book, most came with fixed Novak sights. Very few with the adjustable. I prefer fixed sights on my handguns.

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 11727)
Buying a gun without a magazine is a whole other story, and don't even begin to tell me what you had to pay for them. I asked a guy who had a 5906 mag for sale at a local store what he wanted and even he told me to brace myself. It was 49 bucks.

I've found it's aways better to buy in bulk when it comes to mags. Buying 3 to 5 at a time you'll end up paying 20 to 25 each, sometimes even less. Instead of paying 30 to 35 for a single mag.

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Oh yeah nice Italian Inox too, Predator20.

Thanks. Kind of funny, one of the main reason I bought the gun. After trading my grandma my 92F for her .22 pistol so she would have something bigger, I had several mags lying around and no gun to use them. A SIG P220 is next on my list.

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 02:59 AM

It was $630 with tax and the mags were $25 a pop
@ YNH: It's the adjustable sights model

Yournamehere 02-10-2010 03:14 AM

Adjustable sights are more or less pointless on duty handguns but they make up the ubiqitous S&W Automatic profile which is something I look for being partially a collector.

I don't like paying more than 20-25 bucks per magazine which sucks because Browning wants 50 bucks for every new Hi-Power mag. I have to shop around everywhere to get a deal on a mag. You did alright on the 4506 magazines though.

The next two handguns on my list -o- guns to buy are a West German SIG P226 like MT2008s and a S&W Model 659 to replace the 5906. Still need to buy a rifle though...

S&Wshooter 02-10-2010 03:17 AM

If I want a "duty" gun, I'll buy a Kimber. The 4506 is just for target shooting/home defense. And if your going to buy a rifle, don't, whatever you do, buy a Japanese made Browning. They start out awesome but degrade quickly

predator20 02-10-2010 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 11733)

I don't like paying more than 20-25 bucks per magazine which sucks because Browning wants 50 bucks for every new Hi-Power mag. I have to shop around everywhere to get a deal on a mag. You did alright on the 4506 magazines though.

The next two handguns on my list -o- guns to buy are a West German SIG P226 like MT2008s and a S&W Model 659 to replace the 5906. Still need to buy a rifle though...

Mec-gar makes good mags for the hi-power. I have a few of their 15 round flush fit and 20 round extended. Always worked great.

I wouldn't mind a P226 either, but already have a few 9mm. There was one at the gun shop for $520 but had a lot of slide wear.

Yournamehere 02-10-2010 06:18 AM

I got some of the 15 rounders and found that stuffing all 15 rounds in was quite a chore. The last round wouldn't come out easily and so I decided so return them. I could have downloaded them but then the 15 round witness hole is no longer used and I can't tell if I have 14 rounds or 10. I plan on getting a couple of the 13 rounders when they go back on sale at MidwayUSA. I also look out on Gunbroker for factory mag deals.

Aside from a Kimber being a 1911 and a 4506 being it's own design, they will both work fine. The difference is that Kimber will charge you a grand whereas you can get a S&W for around 450-500 bucks. You still have the same firepower with the same accuracy and reliability with a different battery of arms (DA as opposed to SA). As far as 1911s go, I wouldn't buy a Kimber because Springfield makes as good if not better 1911s at, again, a cheaper price. Springfields have a lifetime warranty which comes in handy, I don't know if Kimber does. Kimber also utilizes the Series 80 safety system which I generally do not approve of in a 1911. They don't utterly suck, you could just do better.

MT2008 02-10-2010 02:59 PM

I'm late to the party, but congats, Brian! Although I am, of course, a SIG guy, I appreciate the S&W autos as much as anyone, and the 4505 is a good choice for a .45...provided it's not too big for you, of course (it is for me).

Oh, and I love the 92FS Inox, too. :)

Nyles 02-10-2010 04:27 PM

Nice gun - never personally been a big fan of the S&W autos, but they're fine, functional firearms.

And you guys have no idea about mags. Try finding a .455 1911 mag for under $200. Or a .38 ACP Webley mag, period.

MT2008 02-10-2010 04:45 PM

One other thing...I was going to sell my 4506-1 for only $500. If people are charging $600 for a 4505, does this mean I should be charging more? :D

Yournamehere 02-11-2010 01:25 AM

Not at all. The 4505 only went for 600 because it was the book value, and EXTREMELY rare. 4506s are plentiful andtherefore shouldn't cost or sell for that much. 500 is a decent asking price for a good condition 4506.

predator20 02-22-2010 06:15 PM

I shot about 50 rounds through the 4505 yesterday. The gun shot great. I haven't had any spare funds to buy HP rounds or extra mags after buying a truck. So I shot only FMJ, I mainly buy Remington Golden Saber or Speer Gold Dot HP for my defense ammo, which have worked great in my other guns. I don't think either one would be a problem in the 4505.

I would have shot more than 50 rounds (I had 100 with me, plus a few loaded 1911 mags) but my grandma was with me so she could get some trigger time with the Beretta. She's not really into shooting and I didn't want her just sitting around. She shot the Beretta pretty well for someone with little to no handgun experience.

For those that wonder why I would give my grandma a handgun. The house she's living in was broken into a few years back when my great grandmother (her mother) was living there, all she had was a fire poker. She got lucky the guy wasn't looking for a fight.


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