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Spartan198 01-02-2010 07:41 AM

HK doesn't just hate you...
 
They especially hate airsofters!

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/20...te-airsofters/

Edit: Oops... wrong section, sorry. :o

S&Wshooter 01-02-2010 07:56 AM

Is H&K run by the real world version of Bizarro? Because they do everything ass-backwards

Zulu Two Six 01-02-2010 03:36 PM

wow dude, thats messed up.
there are TONS of H&K airsoft products out there. the most famous being the G36 and MP5.

H&K is the biggest dumbass ive ever seen

Excalibur 01-02-2010 04:55 PM

The weird part is they are suing the distributors who just sell the airsoft guns. I have not seen any of the brand names that makes the airsoft guns. The distributors have nothing to do with how the Airsoft are made. They just import the airsoft from Japan and sell them in America

MT2008 01-14-2010 12:19 AM

This is a real dick move on their part. There are quite a few gun manufacturers (Armalite, SIG, Walther, etc.) that actually sell officially licensed airsoft versions of their products on their official web sites.

But anyway, if they're only suing distributors (and many airsoft retailers that sell to Americans aren't actually based in the U.S.), it won't make a difference. The only thing they're going to is alienate 90% of their fans. :rolleyes: :D

S&Wshooter 01-14-2010 07:15 PM

Armalite airguns? You mean I can go all Provo on people with an AR-18 when I play airsoft ?

MT2008 01-14-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 10717)
Armalite airguns? You mean I can go all Provo on people with an AR-18 when I play airsoft ?

Nope. The replicas Armalite sells (or used to sell) were of their AR-15-type rifles only. I'm pretty sure they were by some other manufacturer, except with licensed Armalite trademarks.

Also, puh-leeze don't tell me you're one of those moron Plastic Paddy IRA sympathizers.

k9870 01-14-2010 09:46 PM

I wish armalite still made ar-180s.

S&Wshooter 01-14-2010 11:02 PM

I don't like the IRA, but I despise how the British used to pretty much bully Ireland for no reason. I did agree with th old IRA's policy of knee capping drug dealers, however (of course the IRA are the drug dealers nowadays)

MT2008 01-15-2010 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 10724)
I wish armalite still made ar-180s.

Well, they did make the AR-180B up until a few years ago. Unfortunately, it was only made in AWB-friendly incarnations. The Wikipedia article claims that another new version is on the way out, but it doesn't cite sources, and I personally haven't heard anything about it.

Also, I'm not the biggest fan of the AR-180. I respect its operating system, but ergonomically, the rifle itself is about as bad as the AK (except more complex, and therefore more difficult to maintain). Better rifle designs have been built using its internals.

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 10725)
I don't like the IRA, but I despise how the British used to pretty much bully Ireland for no reason. I did agree with th old IRA's policy of knee capping drug dealers, however (of course the IRA are the drug dealers nowadays)

That was 100 years ago. Also, while I am aware that colonialism caused lots of hardships for the Irish (particularly the Potato Famine), you might want to remember that the British also built up Ireland's economy into the 7th richest in the world at independence. Then when they became independent, it all went to shit pretty fast. It's only been within the last 20 years that Ireland became rich again.

As for the IRA kneecapping drug dealers, we basically know that in retrospect, it was mostly about controlling the drug trade for themselves. The IRA's "Army Council" has historically been dominated by gangsters and Marxist-Leninist thugs who almost surely had a hand in the drug trade.

S&Wshooter 01-15-2010 01:29 AM

If only we could get someone to kneecap the new drug dealers.... Also, you have to realize that Britain also fucked over Scotland (outright stole the country's throne), India, and just about every other country they they've come in contact with. That being said, the IRA are a bunch of punks. You know who started the Troubles? They did when one of their "soldiers" threw a Molotov in a old Protestant lady's window, killing her. The UDA are a bunch of bastards too, because when the British said they were going to stay neutral, they meant that some of their soldiers are going to change out of their military uniforms, change into whatever the hell they wear when they go hang out with their fellow UDA buddies, grab the rifle they stole from an armory and go shoot at some IRA members, all without the British gov't's knowledge

Rockwolf66 01-15-2010 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 10730)
If only we could get someone to kneecap the new drug dealers.... Also, you have to realize that Britain also fucked over Scotland (outright stole the country's throne), India, and just about every other country they they've come in contact with. That being said, the IRA are a bunch of punks. You know who started the Troubles? They did when one of their "soldiers" threw a Molotov in a old Protestant lady's window, killing her. The UDA are a bunch of bastards too, because when the British said they were going to stay neutral, they meant that some of their soldiers are going to change out of their military uniforms, change into whatever the hell they wear when they go hang out with their fellow UDA buddies, grab the rifle they stole from an armory and go shoot at some IRA members, all without the British gov't's knowledge

I'm calling bullshit on this one. I know people who did tours of Northern ireland and such things were and are beyond the pale and whoever did so would get tossed into prison if they were ever caught. Trust me when I say that the British Military acted with as much restraint as possible in Northern Ireland. Had they as some idiots would sugest been killing IRA members on the sly...they would have killed off most of the IRA leadership years ago.

MT2008 01-15-2010 04:37 AM

Yeah, the Brits were very neutral in the Northern Ireland conflict. Seriously, what would they want with Northern Ireland, anyway? It's got basically no natural resources or any economic sectors of interest. They let far more profitable colonies leave their empire many years before the Troubles began.

The claims about the Loyalists being British proxy forces is a whole bunch of, um, "bollocks". If the UDA and UVF were really being armed, trained, and supplied with intelligence by MI-5, then why were they so incompetent? If you look at the list of Loyalist victims (on web sites like CAIN), you'll see they killed relatively few IRA members, which shows that they weren't able to find them (and British intelligence on IRA members was extremely good). Not only that, but they weren't even very good at identifying Catholics from Protestants; they shot literally hundreds of Protestants simply because they were in Catholic areas and therefore assumed to be Catholic.

k9870 01-15-2010 08:54 PM

I know so many people who support (not directly, just argue a side) the IRA its crazy. I heard one person say "its okay to kill civilians if its all you can do and your not poerful enough to go against the military."

Wheres the barf smily icon? I hope the IRA is wiped out.

As to the Ar-18, the ergos werent great but i frequently saw them in the 500 dollar range, and as a recreational gun i dont want to break the bank.

ManiacallyChallenged 01-16-2010 07:11 PM

Wait... IRA and airsoft...
HUH?

Excalibur 01-17-2010 03:07 AM

That's my reaction too. How did a discussion about Airsoft copyrights lead to the IRA?

Excalibur 01-17-2010 04:41 PM

So back on topic, I am reading this other forum and it doesn't make sense to sue the airsoft distributors in America. The more hardcore Airsoft fans who do spend the hundred of dollars to get what they want will just go directly to the source. H&K also hasn't sued Redwolf Airsoft, which is a Hong Kong distributor with a branch in the US.

MT2008 01-17-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 10851)
H&K also hasn't sued Redwolf Airsoft, which is a Hong Kong distributor with a branch in the US.

Red Wolf is where I used to buy 90% of my airsoft guns, parts, and equipment. Most people I played with also bought stuff from them. If H&K isn't going after RW, I reckon that means they'll be missing a pretty big part of the market.

Excalibur 01-17-2010 05:24 PM

And Redwolf has been getting a LOT of new toys as of late.


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