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Just got my newest copy of American Rifleman in the mail, and this is its feature article. SIG is making Ar-15s now, no idea why. An already flooded market. They had the 556 which they could just expand the line of, its something different that sets them apart from other companies. Now SIG is like "ME TOO" with this one. Im betting it will be great knowing SIG, but seriously, why when theres so many good ARs out there?

Because SIG wants all of your money. Next thing you know, they'll be making a 1911 type pistol- oh shit, they already do!

Remington hired someone to head the new pistol department there.....yes, remington will be making handguns. Rumor is theyll introduce a prototype at SHOT in january. Most people speculate.....you got it,, another 1911.

At what point do you thing that all gun companies are going to be making AR's and M1911's?

yeah i got mine and read it last night.
looks like SIG jumped on the bandwagon too.

The 556 is not a big seller in this country. So I don't think making more of those will have any impact. But it really doesn't make sense because in this country, SIG has never had a big share of the assault weapon market, either with civilians or LEOs. I'm not sure why they expect the gamble is going to pay off.

Not to mention - think about all the new AR makes/models that have come out since the AWB ended. Have any of them managed to displace the share of the AR market controlled by Colt, Bushmaster, Armalite, and Olympic?

The 556 is one heavy *****, much too heavy for a .223

I've held the SIG 556 and it is really heavy for a rifle that first 5.56. Recently I've held the newer model with more rails and folding adjustable stock.

Most full sized Ar-15s weigh about as much as an m1a. Its only when you get a pencil-barreled carbine an AR gets light.

First of all, let's not curse excessively. It doesn't make you sound grown-up.

Anyway, coming from a guy who thinks we should still be arming our troops with .308 battle rifles, I find that comment to be rather...ironic.

When did I say that? The .308 is way too large for use in urban combat. It's more likely to kill rather than wound your target, but it's alot more heavy and expensive than the 5.56. Also, don't censor me. You are not the FCC and no one cares if I use a "bad" word.

We don't need to swear so unnecessarily. It's also usually a bad sign in topics like thi.s

Anyway, I forget...what do you like (since there doesn't seem to be a lot)?

Winchester, Browning, Smith & Wesson (duh), FN, AK type rifles (no Chinese made, please), RC Cola, coffee, Uzi's, Galil's, double barrel shotgun (not under/over though), M1911's, Colt rifles and revolvers, Sabaton(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rErIR...eature=related), deer hunting, video games, Ford, Levi's, Bates, Texas, Micheal Mann's movies and women. I'm picky, ain't I?

I meant in terms of military-style rifles, only.

Oh, yeah, and...

I own a Chinese-made AK, and I can state with confidence that mine is vastly superior to 99% of the AK clones sold in the U.S. today.

At the same time, while I am an AK aficionado, I also think the AR is an overall superior system.

I like both. As for Chinese AK's, I don't really trust Chinese made anything as a rule. I'd much rather have a Russian or East German AK, but that's not ever going to happen

Who knows, they could secretly be painting their AKs with lead paint, right? :D

I have no problem with you liking Russian AKs (the original) or East German MPi-K series (some of the first AKs to incorporate plastics).

But in the U.S., the Chinese Poly Tech AKs (especially the B-West) were some of the very best semi-auto AKs available to American consumers. I'll take mine over the current crop of clones any day.

Whatever floats your boat.

I also like the Hungarian SA-85Ms (with their beautiful blond furniture). My Dad's thinking about building one of those on his own receiver.

More than anything, I would like to have an FAL and a Galil

If you think the SIG 556 is heavy for a .223 rifle, the Galil is heavier.

Not really. The Galil's weight is a little more spread out than that of the 556, which has all of it's weight in the very front. I recently handled a 556, and it's weight distribution suprisingly reminded me of a Polish "RPK" knockoff that I had held sometime earlier in the year

FALs are nice, only shot a DSA but then again they dominate the market. Id like something more optics friendly though, since my vision sucks. Contacts shift a bit making precision shooting tough. I bet there are good FAL mounts, i just didn't see any on the gun i shot. Maybe a top rail would be nice.

The sig doesn't feel unbalanced to me weigth wise, i just hate the folding stocks (too short.) A collapsible stock version may fit well.

Not really, Galils have almost the opposite problem - a lot of the weight is more towards the rear. Especially with the stock folded (though of course, that's not how anyone shoots it).

It's not a bad rifle, but there is a good reason that the IDF ditched it and went AR.

Don't they make FAL's with rails?

They make anything with rails nowadays

Ok, I've held an M1A and it is way heavier than a basic AR-15.

What kind of AR are you talking about? One made of depleted Uranium (super heavy) with hardwood furniture? There is no way that a normal AR weighs more than a M1A

M1As are around 11-12 pounds empty, An M16A2 is a little under 9 with a loaded magazine. I don't think 9 is 12 hehehe.

They make rails with rails nowadays... :)

The m1a w/ synthetic stock is 9.3 lbs, a Match Ar-15 A2 is about that too..

I prefer a carbine

Oh yeah, sure, give it a plastic frame and it's lighter. I was referring to the old fashion steel and wood frame. That's one heavy bitch.

The walnut stocked m1a is same weight actually, just looked up on springer's website.