Weapons of the LAPD
 

Aside from the Kimber TLE II, what all's included in the LAPD armory?

I've been searching for quite a while and didn't find anything, and every time I try to log onto the LAPD website, my browser freezes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Ang...ervice_weapons

'Nuff said.

I was talking with Excalibur about this this week. Glocks are standard issue. I think they allow their officers to carry S&W 4506s too.

I think Id pick the 4506.

4506 is not for me. I'd take the Kimber or the 92F

I forgot about the Kimbers. Those are standard issue to SWAT units.

*Slaps forehead*
The one place I didn't think to look...

I've read the article. Is it true that LAPD SWAT carry converted M16A2 rifles as well as M4A1's?

If so, are the M16A2's converted to full auto instead of their usual three-round burst?

I think only SWAT can carry kimbers, if patrolmen can I definitely would. 4506 second choice. I'm not really a 9mm fan or a glock fan, and don't really like the .40. Too snappy Prefer .45.

M16A2s converted to semiautomatic only.

I believe I heard that a particular SWAT department in California has M16 in burst

I'm sure there are plenty of Police Departments all over the USA that still have the M16A2 in it's original select fire configuration.

Does LAPD still use .243 bolt guns?

I'm fairly certain that they are now using customized Remington 700 rifles in .308, but I might be thinking of L.A. County instead.

I'd be kind of surprised if any of them used M16s at all, considering the M16 is too long for SWAT uses.

I think they use them for sniping. Which is pretty weird.

The M16 is roughly the length of most Assault Rifles.

Specialized DMR versions (Mark 12 Mod 0/1, SAM-R, SDM-R) are used by the military, so I see no reason why a SWAT, HRT, or SRT unit couldn't use one for the close-in marksman role.

Right, but nobody uses full-size assault rifles for CQB anymore...that's what carbines are for.

The marksman idea makes more sense, I guess, but even so, there are better AR platforms for DMR than the standard M16.

I think I'd go with the 4506. It's a classic. The only problem is it isn't made anymore :(. My second choice is the Beretta 92FS. I also think the Kimber is excellent, but obviously, I'd only use it if I were SWAT.

Ain't the 4506-1 version still being made?

No. Most of the metal-framed S&W pistols from the 90s are out of production. If they weren't, my 4506-1 wouldn't be in such high demand.

I'm not much of a fan of the S&W 4506 series. It seems very generic to me.

What do you mean by "generic"? That seems like a vague criticism.

The 4506 is a good, reliable SA/DA .45 with a stainless frame. The problem I have with mine is just that I find it too tall, which is especially annoying because I can't reach the safety/decocker with my thumb so easily. It's also a bit muzzle-heavy. It's a good weapon for big guys (meaning, most cops), but not for someone of my stature.

I don't like the feel of the grip and the stainless steel finish of it.

The 4506 (and smith 3rd gens in general) are known to eat anything you feed them, and are very reliable guns built for duty. They were pretty much desighned with seld defense and duty carry in mind.

I think 4506s would do a pretty good job for a Military sidearm. The only problem would be how many bullets the thing has. It only has Eight bullets.

9 rounds of 45 acp is plenty. In the miltiary, a sidearm is a last ditch attempt weapon, basically its better than a pointy stick for helping you get to a new rifle. In law enforcement and self defense, if 9 doesn't do it, you're screwed anyway. I feel 1911s deliver good firepower for their prpose, and so do other single stack autos.

I read somewhere that the average amount of shots fired by a police officer in a gun fight is 3.

That's the average. They typically occurr within seven yards - or something like that. They are also very quick. Often an officer will only fire one or two. But ,of course, there are always the exception like North Hollywood where some individual officers expended dozens of rounds.

The 4506 is still in production as the 4506 TSW I believe, and in my opinion, it seems to be a champ. It's a .45 Automatic made by Smith & Wesson. Their 3rd gens are very reliable and durable with their stainless steel construction. On my long list of guns to get for my collection, it's on there around mid range. Right now I'm looking for a Browning Hi-Power though.

Nope. There's a 4056 TSW, but that's not the same gun. None of the TSW line are as big as the 4506 was.

Except reloads, unfortunately. But then, my Dad wasn't really sure how to do reliable .45 ACP loads, only .45 Long Colt (which is what he shoots more often). I think we might be able to make better ones next time, though.

Yeah, I agree, .45 ACP is meant to be used in single-stack pistols, anyway. Double-stack .45s tend to be too thick for people without big hands. And for a sidearm in that caliber, 8-9 rounds is enough.

Anyway, the bigger problem for the 4506 becoming a military sidearm is the fact that it's not made anymore. I can also say (since I actually own a 4506) that it's a bit large and heavy, especially at a time when polymer-framed pistols are in style. As I've said before, I think the Smith & Wesson 4566 probably makes way more sense for most people, since it's not quite as big. Though admittedly, I've never seen/held/fired one before, so I'm not sure, but that is my intuition.

Damn, I was thinking of the 4566 TSW, which is, again, not the same gun, but a similar one. I saw somewhere someone specifically mention a 4506 TSW, which would make sense, but I can't find anything else on it. Weird.

Heavy? All the better for pistol whipping people!:D . I don't like the decocker though because I can't keep it "cocked and locked" like my POS High Standard