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Ultraussie 09-19-2009 08:50 AM

Where's the Simpsons and Family Guy Articles?
 
There were articles on these shows on IMFDB.org, and I think American Dad and King of the Hill had a article too.
What happened to these articles?
They are TV shows, and there are plenty of animated shows that have articles, why did they delete these articles?
A bad article is better than no article at all.

Spartan198 09-19-2009 06:36 PM

No, actually most of us here (including me) believe the exact opposite, that no article is better than a bad one.

They were deleted because the guns in them were poorly animated compared to animes like Gunslinger Girl and Gunsmith Cats.

joffeloff 09-20-2009 07:09 AM

I agree with the sentiment. You can't include anything that walks, crawls or sneezes that portrays 'some sort' of firearm. If it's like the animes where the guns are accurate and intended to actually be what they are, then that's different from silliness like that.

Excalibur 09-20-2009 04:58 PM

If you got King of the Hill, I've seen pretty accurate drawings of guns on that show.

Gunmaster45 09-20-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 7059)
If you got King of the Hill, I've seen pretty accurate drawings of guns on that show.

Not always though, their shotgun drawings can be less than accurate, and I've seen them depict handguns sometimes as just a square handle when they are in holsters.

Excalibur 09-20-2009 05:03 PM

well it's been a while since i've seen King of the Hill anyway. But we do agree that Simpsons and Family guy should NOT go up on the site, neither does South Park.

AdAstra2009 09-21-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 7049)
They were deleted because the guns in them were poorly animated

based on that can we delete crap like this Goldeneye page?
I mean its worst than the Perfect Dark page, and we deleted that.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/GoldenEye_007

ManiacallyChallenged 09-21-2009 09:28 PM

By poorly animated, it is meant that they rarely if ever were meant to represent something real.

All of the weapons in Goldeneye, and a fair number of weapons in Perfect Dark were meant to look like real world firearms.

If the pistol is a "unknown revolver" we don't need a page. If it's an attempt at a Ruger Blackhawk, then we should have a page.

AdAstra2009 09-22-2009 02:23 AM

someone put the simpsons back up.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title...action=history

Excalibur 09-22-2009 04:12 AM

well now it's gone

MT2008 09-22-2009 01:18 PM

I'm still not sure why the vehement hatred for "The Simpsons" or "Family Guy". Some of the guns in them were not very realistic and were too simple to be identified with real-world counterparts. But this wasn't always the case - Stewie's arms stash in "Lois Kills Stewie", for instance, clearly had XM8s, DShKs, Micro Uzis, and other recognizable weapons.

Gunmaster45 09-22-2009 05:17 PM

And I don't understand why you and I had no say in the page's deletion, since we screencapped parts of the page, proving these things. :mad:

Excalibur 09-22-2009 06:41 PM

Look, some of those caps of guns on the show just...doesn't really look like what you claim them to be

Some guns do look pretty like what they are intended to be, but I just look at it like some poorly drawn picture solely for the sake of a comedy action scene, not to look completely the part.

Ultraussie 09-25-2009 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ManiacallyChallenged (Post 7096)
By poorly animated, it is meant that they rarely if ever were meant to represent something real.

All of the weapons in Goldeneye, and a fair number of weapons in Perfect Dark were meant to look like real world firearms.

If the pistol is a "unknown revolver" we don't need a page. If it's an attempt at a Ruger Blackhawk, then we should have a page.

Ive actually seen some good Firearms on the simpsons.


I recall that a Bank robber had a Fully Automatic Ruger Mini14 on one episode.
Marge had dual Glock18's with Extended clips while Homer took a Sawed Off Mossberg and an accurate portrayal of a Vulcan Minigun.
Ive seen M1911's even. Thompson submachine guns have been quite prominet too. And Ive seen VERY VERY VERY accurate M16A2/M16A1 models used by the SWAT team and Military.
When the Police draw there Revolver's most of the time we can Idenify them as a Smith and Wesson M&P/Model10.
Even if it was a bad page it was an Entertaining read, surely.
And remaking the page would be hard without screencaps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 7116)
I'm still not sure why the vehement hatred for "The Simpsons" or "Family Guy". Some of the guns in them were not very realistic and were too simple to be identified with real-world counterparts. But this wasn't always the case - Stewie's arms stash in "Lois Kills Stewie", for instance, clearly had XM8s, DShKs, Micro Uzis, and other recognizable weapons.

Thats so true.
And American Dad did quite well to.
Last Night I was watching it and Stan slept in bed with nice AKM.
And in the spice cupboard:
"Glock, 17 shots"
"Mac10"
"MP5"
"Paprika!"

Spartan198 09-25-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultraussie (Post 7154)
Marge had dual Glock18's with Extended clips

Glock 18s don't feed from clips, they feed from magazines.

Ultraussie 09-26-2009 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 7164)
Glock 18s don't feed from clips, they feed from magazines.

I know that.
Im just calling it a Clip because that gun was gangsta.

Alcatrazz 09-27-2009 06:32 PM

The correct response to anyone correcting a clip/magazine confusion is "Excuse me, princess!"

Spartan198 09-27-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultraussie (Post 7177)
I know that.
Im just calling it a Clip because that gun was gangsta.

Then if you know it, don't call a magazine a clip. "Gangsta" or not, there's still a difference.

k9870 10-04-2009 02:20 AM

King of The Hill did their guns pretty well, why is that page gone?

Carl Minez 10-28-2009 06:32 PM

Really know. We should focus on having sucha high variety of articles as possible rather than following old norms and standards about what should define the weapons. Its a simple question of supply and demand - i think many visitors will search for Simpsons and Family guy articles and they will all be surprised as they are unable to find any.

Excalibur 10-29-2009 01:35 AM

Then they should be told that those guns were poorly drawn and meant to be drawings of guns, not accurate depictions of guns.

The anime pages have very realistically drawn guns, so they belong here. Not 2 rectangles pasted together with a trigger attached.

MT2008 10-30-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 7934)
Then they should be told that those guns were poorly drawn and meant to be drawings of guns, not accurate depictions of guns.

The anime pages have very realistically drawn guns, so they belong here. Not 2 rectangles pasted together with a trigger attached.

You aren't making sense. "Family Guy" has some guns that are poorly drawn and not supposed to be accurate, but there are also plenty of weapons that are recognizable as (fairly) accurate depictions of Micro Uzis, XM8s, MP5s, DShKs, etc. The screencaps we had on the page clearly showed this.

MoviePropMaster2008 10-30-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 7978)
You aren't making sense. "Family Guy" has some guns that are poorly drawn and not supposed to be accurate, but there are also plenty of weapons that are recognizable as (fairly) accurate depictions of Micro Uzis, XM8s, MP5s, DShKs, etc. The screencaps we had on the page clearly showed this.

Never saw a gun depiction on that show that wasn't crap. It is gone. Let's keep it that way.

MT2008 10-31-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 7992)
Never saw a gun depiction on that show that wasn't crap. It is gone. Let's keep it that way.

No disagreement there (I'm the one who deleted the revived page by that newbie, remember?), but surely, you can't deny that some of the gun depictions are fairly realistic?

This is also moreso with "South Park". It's quite obvious that the M16A1s and SPAS-12s and S&W auto pistols in that show are fairly accurate representations of the real guns. One can certainly look at them and think, "Yep, that's an M16!" almost immediately, instead of saying, "Hmmm, that looks sort of like an M16."


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