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mr_Goodbomb 08-17-2009 06:53 PM

Cemetery Man (Dellamorte Dellamore)
 
The main character uses a revolver. I'm wondering what it is/

I'm also wondering why he Xs out the heads of his ammunition with a knife.

MT2008 08-17-2009 07:05 PM

Got a picture? Most of us have never seen this movie (at least, I haven't), so we need to see the gun in order to make an identification.

Carving Xs into bullets is a low-tech way to make hollow-point rounds.

Gunmaster45 08-17-2009 09:16 PM

Another good example of the X-head round is seen in "The Bear", where they exaggerate how much the round destroys a tree.

I myself have never seen the movie, but if he can cut X's in the heads, I'm assuming he is using soft lead bullets, so is this a western?

You really need to post and image or something. Link even?

MoviePropMaster2008 08-17-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 6072)
Got a picture? Most of us have never seen this movie (at least, I haven't), so we need to see the gun in order to make an identification.

Carving Xs into bullets is a low-tech way to make hollow-point rounds.

Well I tried to find pics, and most of what I find online is him boinking that really hot girl in the cemetary (NOT WORK SAFE). And if you DON'T have hollow points, carving X's isn't too bad. It's low tech, but doable.

But until I actually see the flick, it's hard to figure out what it is.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...ences/cem2.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...morte-DD22.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...lamorteD09.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...lamorteD21.jpg

Nyles 08-17-2009 11:05 PM

Those are .38 S&W cartridges, so it's probably a S&W British contract or Model 11.

MT2008 08-18-2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 6091)
Well I tried to find pics, and most of what I find online is him boinking that really hot girl in the cemetary (NOT WORK SAFE). And if you DON'T have hollow points, carving X's isn't too bad. It's low tech, but doable.

But until I actually see the flick, it's hard to figure out what it is.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...ences/cem2.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...morte-DD22.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...lamorteD09.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...lamorteD21.jpg

Looks like a S&W Model 19 to me, but I'm not 100% sure about that. I had no idea how practical it was to carve Xs into standard ball ammo to make hollowpoints. I've heard of it being done, but personally, if I were gonna do it, I'd rather use a vice and a hand drill. Or just go buy factory loads.

MoviePropMaster2008 08-18-2009 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 6102)
Looks like a S&W Model 19 to me, but I'm not 100% sure about that. I had no idea how practical it was to carve Xs into standard ball ammo to make hollowpoints. I've heard of it being done, but personally, if I were gonna do it, I'd rather use a vice and a hand drill. Or just go buy factory loads.

It's purely a last ditch effort. I certainly would do a much better job if I were doing it for fun, but I assume that a character would do a hack job, especially if their lives were in immediate danger, etc. etc.

I still think it's a larger handgun than a Model 19 and the dummy rounds aren't for the gun. Also they look more like .44 special, which 'may' load in a .44 magnum in a pinch, but not well.....

Nyles 08-18-2009 02:12 AM

I doubt it's a 19, doesn't seem to have a ramped front sight.

MT2008 08-18-2009 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 6107)
It's purely a last ditch effort. I certainly would do a much better job if I were doing it for fun, but I assume that a character would do a hack job, especially if their lives were in immediate danger, etc. etc.

I still think it's a larger handgun than a Model 19 and the dummy rounds aren't for the gun. Also they look more like .44 special, which 'may' load in a .44 magnum in a pinch, but not well.....

Yeah, it could be something bigger, but the bottom lug looks very S&W-ish to me, so I guess that's as good a place to start as any.

Also, dunno if looking at the shells is a good idea, unless we know that the character is seen loading the same rounds into his revolver. Remember the scene from "Die Hard" where Bruce Willis checks the load in his MP5, and when he looks at the last two rounds in the mag, they're both .38 Super? :D

Gunmaster45 08-18-2009 06:10 AM

It looks like a nickel Model 29.

mr_Goodbomb 08-18-2009 06:35 PM

So, the Xing of the head of the bullets is supposed to... Make it break apart on impact? I've seen it done in vampire movies, but the X is intended to be a cross.

Is this safe/practical in real-world applications, out of curiousity?

I'm having trouble finding screenshots. Here's a link to the movie on YouTube in HD. The rest of the movie comes after it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onLvxe9jjUI

Gunmaster45 08-18-2009 06:59 PM

They expand and stay in the body, so all the kinetic energy favored for stopping power is maintained.

I wouldn't reccomend cutting Xs in your ammunition, as it could lodge in the barrel if you cut it too much, and never use them in anything other than a revolver. You'll just get lots of jams.

Here's a shot from youtube, it's low res though, because I wasn't going to fuck around with HD for an hour to grab one shot:

http://i29.tinypic.com/6jkbpk.jpg

mr_Goodbomb 08-19-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 6127)
They expand and stay in the body, so all the kinetic energy favored for stopping power is maintained.

I wouldn't reccomend cutting Xs in your ammunition, as it could lodge in the barrel if you cut it too much, and never use them in anything other than a revolver. You'll just get lots of jams.

Here's a shot from youtube, it's low res though, because I wasn't going to fuck around with HD for an hour to grab one shot:

http://i29.tinypic.com/6jkbpk.jpg

I appreciate it.

Nyles 08-19-2009 11:40 PM

That's an Italian Bodeo 1889. One of the non-standard models with the conventional trigger but full length octagonal barrels.


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