Can anyone locate this image?
 

This 'doctored' image of Ed Harris as a Navy SEAL (from the movie THE ROCK) is from an actual IMAGE that's been floating around on the net of two real SEALS (they pasted his face onto the body of the first man in the photo). But I need to get an ACTUAL copy of the original image. Anyone been able to find one? Thanks.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/22/RockColtCommando-1.jpg

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SEALwithCommando.jpg

It's dated 1 January 1995.

You'd think a Navy SEAL would show better trigger discipline.

While I'm not sure about the military practice on trigger discipline.

In Massad Ayoob's book, Combat Handgunnery. He mentions that "all the way through the early 1990s, FBI agents were taught to place their fingers on the trigger as part of the draw process." Then he goes on about accidental discharges from being startled, etc. Then the keep your finger outside the trigger guard until the actual moment to fire is born.

I after seeing so much pre-Cold war War photos, it seems that before the Vietnam War US Military units didn't give a shit about trigger discipline. I mean look at John Browning here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nBrowning.jpeg

Does he look like he gives a crap about his finger being on the trigger?

You can hardly apply modern ideas (no matter how much better they may be) to eras that predate them. Elmer Keith may have kept his finger on the trigger, but I don't think anyone here is going to suggest they know guns better than he did.

Also, quite frankly I don't think any of us are in a position to be criticising a Navy SEAL on his weapons handling.

I just though Navy SEALs were trained to keep their booger hooks off the bang switch, is all.

I've seen soldiers in Vietnam who kept their fingers under the trigger guard, not sure if that was a training procedure though. And FBI Agents were taught to draw their Glocks like that because of the long trigger pull. The accidental discharge was known as "Glock Foot" because you typically lost a toe when you made this mistake.

BTW, do you think anyone else could photoshop their head onto that Navy SEAL? :D

What the hell is a Booger Hook or Bang Switch?

Your finger is a booger hook, for obvious reasons. The bang switch is the trigger, for obvious reasons. Never heard that expression before? :D

No. Looked up Booger Hook on the Urban Dictionary and found out what it means. Sill don't know what a bang switch means. But i can probably guess.

I wonder if that SEAL was credited in the movie...

The gun's trigger, because the gun goes *bang* when you "switch" it. Make sense now?

I though of that but i was not sure. Man, I'm dumb.

Meh, sometimes things aren't interpreted correctly to people. No biggie.

Did none of you guys notice that this 'SEAL' is carrying an MGC CAR-15 and NOT a real Commando? ;) Look at the gun carefully. Sure the magazine looks kosher but the rest of the gun does not. This 'SEAL' is carrying a replica Japanese gun. Why is that?

http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/8a/MGC_CAR15.jpg

Holy crap, you're right... I can't believe I didn't see that... I thought it was strange that he didn't have an M4 or at least a 727, but wow... :eek:

They are probably training. Hence the Replicas.

Or maybe he wasn't a real SEAL at all, which would explain the trigger discipline problem. Maybe they just took the picture of the guys suited up to put in an EyeWitness book or something. :rolleyes:

It came from this site:

http://www.defenseimagery.mil/index.htm

And it's on Wikipedia so, yeah. It's not fake.

Just because it's on Wikipedia, does not make it true. Because it's on Wikipedia means that you should check everything about it thouroghly.

I know. I just agree with the sourced things they say there in Wikipedia. That's why i checked the origin of the Image.

I used to edit things on Wikipedia and trust me when I say that the site is not to be trusted although there are some small parts that are good.

I know that the GAU-19/A and the Ciener Ultimate pages are good as to right now as I built and watch the pages. Unfortunatly people can really screw with things as what happened recently on Wikipedia's Armsel Striker page.

Even if training, they'd still be using real weapons, not MGC replicas.

Most gun pages on Wikipedia suck. However, Most history, politics, movies, television and books pages are really good.

Could it be from the tv series "Seven Days"? The guy kind of looks like the actor that starred in it, an I think that his character was suppose to be an ex-Seal.

David.

No I've seen that photo for years. It was featured in a color book on America's Elite forces that I bought at a Gun show back in the 1980s (but have since lost). The Man is apparently a real SEAL (they listed his name and his actual rank within the Navy) but the Navy never trained with Japanese Toy Replicas. Why would they train with toys? It was a PHOTO OP, so if they're doing a photo op, wouldn't they break out the real Deal? This has always mystified me. And amazingly WIKIPEDIA never caught it nor have they EVER explained it. but IMFDB did! ;)

We should probably note this on The Rock page then, huh?

hahahah :D Well you're RIGHT then. If we list the 'commando' or XM177 as Hummel's gun, in the photo where they put Hummel's face on the man's head, then the gun is really an MGC CAR-15.....

I just want to know (from the Navy one of these days) if this is a real pic and why a REAL SEAL is carrying a replica toy gun? :confused: