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Excalibur 08-01-2009 04:26 AM

Desert Eagle
 
Now this has always bothered me. What is the point of the Desert Eagle? I heard it was originally thought of for use to hit engine blocks from cars

But seriously, it's bulky, heavy and isn't even too big to be a sidearm for any military. Who uses this beast?

MT2008 08-01-2009 04:47 AM

You missed Clutch's topic on this...

http://www.imfdb.org/forum/showthrea...t=Desert+Eagle

The short answer is that the Desert Eagle was designed back in the days when Magnum-caliber revolvers were still the most popular weapons on the American handgun market, and it was designed with sports shooters and hunters who wanted a Magnum-caliber semi-auto pistol with a higher capacity higher than that of a revolver. The Automag was basically designed with the same goal, except that unlike the Automag, the Eagle was designed to fire off-the-shelf Magnum rounds rather than the special AMP rounds that had to be made for the Automag. Law enforcement/military purposes were the last thing its designers had in mind.

The Desert Eagle's market was sort of killed by the Wonder Nine revolution of the late-80s/early-90s (when Magnum-caliber revolvers went out of style), but it survived mostly due to its exposure in cinema. That's why Magnum Research so shamelessly promotes the Eagle's appearances in movies (they gave the Eagle its own web site dedicated to its "acting" career).

Yournamehere 08-01-2009 04:59 AM

It's only for people who are douchebags, or those who like to hunt with handguns, though these people usually fall under the douchebag category as well.

My definition of the word "douchebag" is: one who is overly excessive in their pursuit of completion or fulfillment of any task, objective, or requirement. Syn: Overzealous.

Ex: "You know Bill got this sweet new Sniper Rifle. We're gonna go shoot it soon."

"I heard. He got a ghillie suit to go with the thing too, and covered the rifle in reeds."

"Wow, really? What a douchebag move. I just wanted to shoot the thing, not become the Creature from the Black Ops Lagoon."

Anyhow, back to the point, aside from the other things, you buy a Desert Eagle with the mindset you have when you buy a Rolex. You want every son of a bitch who sees you to know that you put down the money to get the most luxurious item you could possibly get, even though there are options that could do the same, or possibly better, job at a more reasonable price. It's an extravagance fit for..... douchebags.

predator20 08-01-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 5207)
It's only for people who are douchebags

Well I guess I'm a douchebag according to you. My Desert Eagle.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image...E.357MarkI.jpg

I think what has made the DE a joke in the gun world, is its overuse in movies. People complain about the wide grip. I think that's because they're trying to do it one handed like the agents in the Matrix. I have average size hands and I don't find it hard to shoot, but I use two hands like I do with all my other handguns. I can seen owning one in .357 or .44, common calibers. But not a .50. Those are a novelty. I wanted one in a .44 but since ammo was hard to get and I have a S&W 586. I settled for the .357.

As far as showing it off like a Rolex. I paid $750 for mine. That will barely buy you a semi custom 1911. I don't show it off at the range, because I'm not about to pay $15 the range charges. That's ammo money. I go out to the boonies, behind my great uncles place. Nobody around to show it off to. Which is fine with me.

Spartan198 08-01-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 5210)
]I think what has made the DE a joke in the gun world, is its overuse in movies.

Video games, too. Don't forget the legions of mall ninjas who refuse to believe anything except "ZOMG! Giant bullets". Believe me, I used to be one.
Example:
Quote:

XD Same here but I use Deagle because every 1 shot the M500 shoots the Deagle shoots 2 and the M500 shoots 5000dmg shots but the Deagle shoots 3000 so the Deagle is better in damage in the long run.
Basically it's just "Stopping power, stopping power, stopping power!" And they just refuse to believe and ignore the fact that it weighs damn near as much as a SOPMOD M4 with all the bells and whistles. And as anyone here will agree, all the stopping power on earth means spit when one shot throws you miles off target.

If you like it just out of personal preference, I've got nothing against you for it. But it's the dickheads who cry "accept my opinion" then flame me out for being a Kimber fan that I hate.
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As far as showing it off like a Rolex. I paid $750 for mine. That will barely buy you a semi custom 1911.
I'd personally splurge and get a custom 1911. ;)

Just my opinion on the monstrosity called the Desert Eagle. No offense intended. ;)

predator20 08-01-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 5211)
Video games, too. Don't forget the legions of mall ninjas who refuse to believe anything except "ZOMG! Giant bullets". Believe me, I used to be one.
Example:

If you like it just out of personal preference, I've got nothing against you for it. But it's the dickheads who cry "accept my opinion" then flame me out for being a Kimber fan that I hate.

I'd personally splurge and get a custom 1911. ;)

Just my opinion on the monstrosity called the Desert Eagle. No offense intended. ;)

I forgot about video games. Not much of a gamer, bought a PS3 for the Blu-Ray mostly and to play what few PS2 games I have.

I get what you're are saying out of personal preference. There are lovers and haters for every gun maker. My DE isn't my favorite gun, by any means. But it's a real fun gun to shoot.

I have a Para 1911 GI Expert. About one of the cheapest 1911 you can get right now. I'd like to eventually get a Colt 70 series and get some work done to it. Probably spend more than $750 too. That will barely cover the gun.

Yournamehere 08-01-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 5210)
Well I guess I'm a douchebag according to you. My Desert Eagle.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image...E.357MarkI.jpg

As long as one has a decent niche for it, like you, they aren't a douchebag. Also, bravo on having a Mark I in .357 of all things. Before that I couldn't find one on the internet.

I don't like the guys who outright buy a Desert Eagle for no reason except they have an excess of money and time, and not enough understanding of the gun world. You decided on one that made sense to you because of what guns you owned (a revolver that was already chambered in .357) and your personal preference, which in this case I will definitely respect (it's okay to disregard personal preference if the person is a complete idiot, I think). I have a friend who has one in .50, but he isn't a complete douchebag for having it, because he knows the gun and it's limits, along with the other 19 guns he owns.

All in all it's just my opinion, and no one has to jump through my hoops, but they should do themselves a favor and consider a giant ass handgun practically. For the record, I have a big ass handgun too (not a Desert Eagle), so I get a few douchebag points, but it's not super caliber and it also helps me learn about revolvers. Pretty fun to shoot too.

predator20 08-01-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 5214)

I don't like the guys who outright buy a Desert Eagle for no reason except they have an excess of money and time, and not enough understanding of the gun world.

I get what you are saying there. Most of those kind of people buy a gold plated .50 DE. Which cost double what I paid for mine. My S&W 586 is the flashiest gun I own actually. It's nickel plated, was going to get a blued one. But it was too clean to pass up and it was a 4".

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 5214)
For the record, I have a big ass handgun too (not a Desert Eagle), so I get a few douchebag points, but it's not super caliber and it also helps me learn about revolvers. Pretty fun to shoot too.

What kind?

Yournamehere 08-01-2009 08:19 PM

It's a Smith & Wesson Model 19-5 with a 6 inch barrel.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2.../Model19-5.png

Not very expensive, but flashy as hell. I got it so I could further my knowledge about revolvers, and Smiths are a lot simpler than Colts.

MT2008 08-02-2009 01:25 AM

Not all people who buy Eagles are douchebags, but quite a few I've met are. The only one I've shot (a .50 AE Mark XIX) was owned by the boyfriend of a woman who worked with me. Then I met him at the Christmas Party for the first time, and he was...well, kind of a douche. Not a bad guy or anything, but still douchebag-ish. He was a fitness company consultant or something like that, and I remember our conversation was like 10 minutes of him trying to convince me that my current workout supplement was inadequate so that I'd buy something he had worked on... :D

Oh, yeah, so back to the Eagle. I guess it's kind of a fun gun to shoot, but the people I've talked to online who owned them (who are not at all douchebags) say that the novelty wears off pretty quickly.

LoneSniperJim 08-02-2009 01:39 AM

I guess if you mod this baby you could go to war with it....

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7324/92374439.jpg

Oh wait.... that's a video game...

Vangelis 08-02-2009 08:01 AM

Does it load a high-capacity Deagle clip? Mine has jungle-taped C-mags.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 01:43 AM

For some reason it seems only fitting for Chuck Norris to wield such a weapon.

Excalibur 08-03-2009 03:25 AM

and Arnold back in his prime

Spartan198 08-03-2009 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 5251)
For some reason it seems only fitting for Chuck Norris to wield such a weapon.

Chuck Norris doesn't need guns. His roundhouse kicks have more kinetic energy than any bullet.

But the directors of Missing in Action and Walker: Texas Ranger thought that, however funny, it would get old if he just roundhouse kicked everyone into oblivion.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 09:10 AM

He could just round-house kick the concept of "getting old" into oblivion, thus removing the problem. I could sit and read Chuck Norris facts all night... :D

Ace Oliveira 08-03-2009 03:21 PM

I don't think the Jericho 941 is bad though. I was looking to buy a airsoft Jericho and i like the gun quite a lot. It has nice stopping power in .45 ACP and is small enough to be a Sidearm im most militarys. The IDF uses as their service sidearm also.

Yournamehere 08-03-2009 03:43 PM

A Jericho in .45 ACP is called a Jericho 945, and as I always say, it's best to get the gun in the original form/caliber it came in anyhow. Also, the Jericho and Desert Eagle series have virtually no compatibility or commonality, so saying one is bad and the other good is like saying "I hate Berettas, but the SIGs are good though." Just a friendly correction.

MT2008 08-03-2009 03:57 PM

I've heard the .45 ACP Jericho is kind of shit, and that it was a half-assed job by IMI to capitalize on the demand for pistols in this caliber.

I liked the 9mm Jericho I've fired, though. A little bit tall, and I'd prefer one with a frame safety (which seem to be almost non-existent in the States), but still a very nice piece.

Yournamehere 08-03-2009 04:47 PM

My buddy has one and swears by it. It's got the best grip of any 9mm I've handled, and yeah a 941F is not an easy find, but highly desired. I'd like one like the chrome one used in The Condemned.

Nyles 08-03-2009 04:50 PM

Baby Eagles are good guns, I've been pretty impressed by it everytime I've shot one. Interestingly enough, I was talking to a guy who owns a rental range, and Baby Eagle / CZ75s are always the last pistol to wear out.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 08:30 PM

I ran a couple rounds through a .45 ACP Jericho "Desert Eagle", and it fed the crap ammo my 1911 wouldn't take, which impressed me. I liked it, the grip was a little long, but I rarely complain about grips, since a two-handed high grip usually works with all well enough. But it only fit 8 rounds?

And its durability doesn't surprise me, the gun's steel is thick and tightly fitted. Unfortunately IMI lubes up the parts with this shitty oil that ruins the gun's good functions, so if you buy one, strip it and clean that junk pronto.

Ace Oliveira 08-03-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 5307)
I ran a couple rounds through a .45 ACP Jericho "Desert Eagle", and it fed the crap ammo my 1911 wouldn't take, which impressed me. I liked it, the grip was a little long, but I rarely complain about grips, since a two-handed high grip usually works with all well enough. But it only fit 8 rounds?

And its durability doesn't surprise me, the gun's steel is thick and tightly fitted. Unfortunately IMI lubes up the parts with this shitty oil that ruins the gun's good functions, so if you buy one, strip it and clean that junk pronto.

Thanks for the advice.

If i was going to buy one i would buy a full sized one though.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 08:40 PM

I'd say probably buy a 9mm though, with a grip that long you should get more bang for your buck, and 8 rounds is a little lacking in today's firearm. It isn't a 1911, so it doesn't get away with this.

And I don't recommend using one as a carry pistol, the gun is like an inch wide and is a little weighty. Especially when fully loaded.

Ace Oliveira 08-03-2009 08:55 PM

Then i should buy one in .40 S&W then?

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 08:59 PM

Whatever suits you best.

Yournamehere 08-03-2009 09:12 PM

I would just buy one in 9mm, so it's not some accomodation gun. Plus it'll be easier and cheaper to shoot at the range.

Ace Oliveira 08-03-2009 09:23 PM

Acomodation Gun?

Yournamehere 08-03-2009 09:39 PM

As in a gun that was reworked to accomodate a cartridge it was not originally built for. It was originally a 9mm, so just buy the 9mm.

Ace Oliveira 08-03-2009 09:42 PM

Okay then. I though it was built for .41 action express.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 10:40 PM

It was built for both. Hence 941. As in 9mm-.41AE


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