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Gunmaster45 07-31-2009 10:43 PM

Lock 'n Load With R. Lee Ermey
 
Tonight at 9:00, R. Lee Ermey premieres his new show on the History channel.

So clear your schedules from 9:00-11:00, because Gunney wants to show us some trigger time!

It's like Mail Call, but all guns and explosives, so basically, the fun part of Mail Call.

Shall I make a page at 9:00 and document as I watch? :)

k9870 07-31-2009 10:50 PM

Yes! I wish the louge here got that channel.

Gunmaster45 07-31-2009 10:53 PM

If I make the page it'll probably be a little sloppy at first (no pause button on the TV) and there may not be a poster, but I'll search. Once it's released on the internet somewhere, it can be screencapped.

I'm pumped to see it. I'm exhausted from lifting trees in the rain, it's time for me to sit and relax. Mail Call's been playing all day (first time I've ever seen it play on the History channel since I got DISH), but it's likely the last time. :rolleyes:

Yournamehere 07-31-2009 11:06 PM

Hooray guns on television!

Alcatrazz 08-01-2009 12:29 AM

Just don't try to make screencaps with your camera phone.

Spartan198 08-01-2009 12:46 AM

I plan on watching this, too. I, on the other hand, can pause live TV! Yay for DVRs! :D

Yeah, it's been quite a long time since they showed Mail Call. Pity as it was canceled. Gunny taught me a lot. But it's all good now 'cause he's back. Ooh-rah!

Gunmaster45 08-01-2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcatrazz (Post 5174)
Just don't try to make screencaps with your camera phone.


I would never. I'll wait for the History Channel website to show it, or find it on Hulu or something.

No one edit the page though, I'll probably get edit conflicts.

Spartan198 08-01-2009 01:16 AM

Loving Lock 'n Load so far! Talking about the hand-cranked Gatling Gun now.

(I got DirecTV, so I get to watch it 3 hours earlier! :p)

Excalibur 08-01-2009 02:10 AM

Dont have history channel. Hopefully someone will upload it on youtube

Gunmaster45 08-01-2009 02:26 AM

Finished documenting the first episode, the second doesn't appear to have any small arms weapons, but I'll watch just to be sure.

I'll rewatch episode 1 at 1:00 to re-check my work, I missed some type of FN machine gun at the machine gun shoot, as well as some guns on the rack.

And I love the show so far. :D Hope it comes out on DVD at some point, it'll look far better than any website videos. Christ, 26 guns in the first episode. This show'll likely kill Mail Call if I can ever correctly complete it.

Then again, I don't know if I'll ever find the rest of the Mail Call DVDs to finish that.

Rockwolf66 08-01-2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcatrazz (Post 5174)
Just don't try to make screencaps with your camera phone.

John's got better standards than that. I'm the guy who screencaps with cameraphones and digital cameras. :mad:

Now if I could only find someone willing to screencap a few of my DVD's I would be very happy and part with my hard earned cash to reward that wonderful person.:D

predator20 08-01-2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 5209)
John's got better standards than that. I'm the guy who screencaps with cameraphones and digital cameras. :mad:

Now if I could only find someone willing to screencap a few of my DVD's I would be very happy and part with my hard earned cash to reward that wonderful person.:D

What movies are they?

Excalibur 08-02-2009 05:06 AM

So how was the show for those who saw it?

Clutch 08-02-2009 10:53 PM

Fairly good. I'm glad, for a brief moment, that History has decided that people want to watch more than Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, and ooky-spooky end of the world shit.

I will say that Ermey has a rather unhealthy obsession with watermelons, though...

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 5209)
John's got better standards than that. I'm the guy who screencaps with cameraphones and digital cameras. :mad:

Now if I could only find someone willing to screencap a few of my DVD's I would be very happy and part with my hard earned cash to reward that wonderful person.:D


I might consider letting you send your DVDs to me. I had a lot of shit going on when you asked, but if money's involved, I'll see what I can do. I need money... :D

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Spartan198 08-03-2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch (Post 5244)
Fairly good. I'm glad, for a brief moment, that History has decided that people want to watch more than Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, and ooky-spooky end of the world shit.

I really wish the management at History would take a look at TLC (the channel, not the hip hop trio) as an example of the road they're going down with crap like Ice Road Truckers and Ax Men, or before they know it, they'll be syndicating John and Kate Plus 8, American Chopper, and A Baby Story.

Gunmaster45 08-03-2009 09:06 AM

Really, what's enjoyable about watching other people do shit you yourself would hate doings or witness being done?

What's next, a show about people taking painful shits for an hour? :rolleyes:

And Lock n' Load was an awesome show, I'll be sure to catch it again next friday. I'll touch up the page sometime this week, I know it isn't in correct format.

Spartan198 08-04-2009 03:50 AM

According to my guide, it's about tanks this week.

Come on, Gunney, let's get to grenade launchers! :D

Gunmaster45 08-04-2009 04:22 AM

I have to wonder though, after he covers all the main weapon categories, what next? Mail Call had people send in letters, which kept the show going based on viewer questions, but this show just goes with categories. When they run out, they'll have no source material to run with.

Gunmaster45 08-15-2009 12:49 AM

Pistols tonight at 9:00. I'll be covering it as it plays, so no edit conflicts! :)

Yournamehere 08-15-2009 02:45 AM

The "Colt .38" wasn't a Colt New Service as there aren't any chambered for any .38 Caliber bullets. The only thing it could be is the Colt 1894 Army DA, or some revolver that no one has ever heard of.

Edit: It might not even be an 1894, I can't find an example with a 4 inch barrel. Of course the gun described and the gun used might not be the same thing, so the gun seen might have just been some random .38 Caliber Colt.

Gunmaster45 08-15-2009 02:53 AM

They said it was a Colt 1894, but I thought it was an error.

And I thought they made the Colt 1898 .38 Colt revolver. It may not be a New Service gun, but it could be it.

Keep in mind I did this all on the fly, so my backchecking abilities are lacking.

Yournamehere 08-15-2009 02:59 AM

Yeah for some reason I recall a Colt .38 made in 1898 too, but I have no idea about specifics.

Nyles 08-15-2009 05:15 AM

Actually the Colt New Service WAS available in both the .38-40 and .38 Special. That said, without have seen the show, it sounds like you're talking about a commercial model 1889 Navy, available in .38 Long Colt and .41 Colt which would become the US Army M1892. Also could be the New Army and Navy from 1892.

And the idea that any of these were the first successful double-action revolver is downright insulting. In terms of revolver design quite frankly the US was years behind Europe for most of the second half of 19th century. The first successful double action was the Beaumont Adams 1855. Hell the Deane & Adams was a successful DAO in 1851. Hell, the first successful American double-action was the Smith & Wesson Frontier 1884.

Gunmaster45 08-15-2009 07:38 PM

They were also boasting about the swing out cylinder design, so maybe they just jumped to the next reloading step as well.

And I thought the first successful American DA revolver was the Colt Lightning/Thunderer 1877 pistols. They had sucky triggers, but were double action regardless.

Nyles 08-15-2009 08:51 PM

Well, commercially they were successful, but mechanically I wouldn't say so. You often find them and the 1878s with broken lockwork - I've read they weren't really intended to fired single action, but many of their users did so.

Yournamehere 08-15-2009 10:01 PM

As far as American Revolvers go, or even revolvers in general, I think that the Smith & Wessons are overall the best. Long track record, plenty of innovation along the way, good mechanics and lockup, good interface, and they can be taken apart fairly easy too. The only way a Colt is better is in the trigger, which is only smoother by a small margin if you have the target trigger/hammer setup, and most older S&Ws compared to most older Troopers or Pythons are close to half the price.

I'm not familiar with much anything before the 1873 SAA, though, except the 1860 Army/1861Navy, so I haven't heard of these European revolvers, but I did know the double action design was not an American invention. Still, I think it's safe to say we perfected it.

Excalibur 08-15-2009 10:11 PM

Yeah America seem to have had a flair for taking something that was already around and making it ten times better

Nyles 08-15-2009 10:19 PM

The double-action trigger as it appeared on the Beaumont-Adams 1855 was perfected, it was strong, reliable and effective in both DA and SA. The "prototype", if you will, was the Deane & Adams 1851. American makers didn't produce anything comparable until 1884. You can say that American companies perfected the swing-out cylinder revolver, that's accurate, and the swing-out design is the best at handling a powerful cartridge while still being reasonably fast to reload. The only non-American swing-out cylinder revolver produced that wasn't heavily based on American designs was the French M1892 and I wouldn't rate it as highly as a Colt or S&W.

I think S&W does make an excellent revolver, in fact the trigger is widely considered better than a Colt. A Colt stacks towards the end of the pull in DA, a S&W is consistent throughout. A Python is in a class all it's own, when introduced it was practically handmade, but as far as production guns S&W made a technologically superior gun as soon as they introduced the Military & Police and Colt never really caught up. There's alot to be said for Rugers though, they're all coil springs and it makes them alot tougher.

Yournamehere 08-16-2009 05:04 PM

Good information, very well put. As far as the trigger thing I couldn't have said it better myself, and I know exactly what you mean.

As for Ruger, I know guys who like them and guys who don't. I've not heard any complaints about the GP100 or the SP101, basically the most modern ones, but I was talking with a guy in the gun store not too long ago, and he used to carry a S&W Model 19 as his sidearm. They eventually switched to Ruger Security Six handguns and he was always having problems with the way they binded up in the sandy area. He eventually jumped through all the necessary loops to get his S&W back.


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