Ever watched a movie that made you just hate Hollywood?
 

For me, the re-make of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" is one of those movies. I watched it this weekend, and I can't remember the last time a movie pissed me off as much as this one.

Not particularly. I try to look for the things I like in a given movie, rather than dwell on what I don't.

I hate when movies are ruined by crappy remake sequels. I never saw the new Day the Earth Stood Still, it didn't spark my interest.

But sometimes very old films are remade and are much better. King Kong (1933) for instance, IMO, sucked. The new one made in 2005, was excellent.

Aside from the fact that this movie trashed my memory of the original, which I loved as a kid, I couldn't believe the audacity of this movie's radical environmentalism. I know Hollyweird's full of idiot leftists, but do these rich actors and directors, who live FAR more lavish lifestyles than any of us, really think the world would be a better place if all technology were shut down and destroyed? The ending was just so absurd that it was almost infuriating.

Blasphemy!

I never liked the original King Kong. I understand how amazing it was for the time, but it didn't even have an end moral. Kong loved Anne, but Anne was scared out of her mind the whole time. Kong was a crazy, bloodthirsty ape who killed anyone in his way and it wasn't sad at all when Kong was shot from the empire state building. And Denham learned nothing from what he did wrong. He thought up the line "Twas beauty killed the beast" like it would make a good headline for a newspaper.

In the new Kong, Anne cares for Kong. Kong is sympathized. He's the last of his kind, he's alone, and misunderstood. He kills only those who try to hurt him (instead of killing anyone in the original) or Anne, and when Kong falls from the building at the end, it is very sad. Denham realizes what crime he has commited by ripping Kong from his environment and speaks the line with remorse and sadness. I liked the new King Kong far better. And the CGI was ground breaking. Oh, and Jack was kind of a dick in the original movie despite being the protaganist.

Hmmm, looks like we're getting off-topic again. But whatever.

The problem is, you have to evaluate the original with the era in mind. If you compare it to the present-day incarnation, then of course it seems inferior, but that doesn't make it intrinsically inferior. Which is not the same thing.

It's like...when you watch a movie where Ray Harryhausen did the special F/X, do you automatically deem it inferior to a modern-day flick simply because his stop-motion animation from the 1960s isn't as realistic as anything that ILM or Stan Winston could cook up?

The type of animation used isn't how I judge the movies. I was just saying I liked the animation in King Kong a lot. Both have ground breaking CGI for their times, but I like the new King Kong better because it told the Kong story better and was much better made.

I remember watching Transformer 2 and hating Micheal Bay even more. I counted so many continuity issues with the plot. Oh the guns and explosions and shots of the military were awesome, but everything else, plot, character development, the Transformers themselves...it pissed me off.

Another movie that made me hate was Punisher Warzone. I know they wanted to make this one more action pack, but because they took too long to make it, Thomas Jane, who was a good Punisher actor dropped off, they switched directors and the Punisher in the movie didn't even use any kind of 1911s which are his signature handguns.

Yes. Very much so

I didn't even bother watching the new Punisher, I could see what it was going to be.

I felt kind of bad bashing it though because I'm pretty sure the director commented on our opinions on the discussion page, and she was very nice about it, despite how much we were tearing it up. :o

"Revenge of the Fallen" may be a totally brainless movie, and Michael Bay may be an egomaniac (as I'm sure those leaked e-mails confirmed for anyone who didn't already know), but at least it didn't have hypocritical, stupid politics...on the contrary, it was basically a pro-military kind of movie. That's what I hated so much about the remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still"...they destroyed a classic with extremely idiotic leftist commentary.

I wouldn't exactly call the original right wing....

I've had that argument with people for years about the socialistic leanings of the original version. I'm convinced that the only reason that those concerned with the movie didn't get hauled in-front of the House Un-American Activities Committee, is because it was a science fiction film.

David.

This is a good point...only thing is, there's a bit of a difference between arguing against nuclear war (which I'm pretty sure liberals and conservatives today agree on), which is essentially arguing for the sake of saving mankind from extinction, and arguing that humankind deserves to be wiped out for destroying Earth, as the newer version argues.

What a lousy moral. I haven't hurt this Earth any, why the fuck do I deserve to be destroyed? ;). Hell, I'm a pretty environmentally friendly guy, not like a Green Peace weirdo or anything, but I do recycle and pick up trash on occasion. And I sure as hell don't cruise the streets in my Hummer. :D

It's almost as stupid as the new War of the Worlds moral: "Sometimes it takes and alien invasion to bring a torn family together." :rolleyes:

Did you know we waste more money and resources to recycle than throwing out trash the regular way? Now recycling metal, plastic and glass is the only good thing to recycle but paper is not going to help since there are tree farms meant solely for paper, so many things we recycle is just a waste of our time and money and the only thing we get out of this is the good feeling. Now car pooling is good, saves gas. Buy more fuel efficient cars. Hybrids are a waste of money.

And that's what I hate most about the ridiculous obsession in Hollywood with promoting ecological/Green crap. The hypocrisy of all these actors, directors, producers, etc. who produce a bigger carbon dioxide footprint in one day than I do in a year (with all of their huge mansions, stretch Humvees, private jets, personal entourages, etc.) lecturing me about how I need to be more Green-friendly. The way I see it, if the environment is in such serious danger, why aren't these stuck-up celebrities acting like it?

Oh, yeah, and if anyone ever doubts the hypocrisy of Al Gore and his ilk, the final word must go to this page:

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerkimball...ent-hypocrite/

He's pulling an old magician's trick, he's distracting us with one hand (AKA his super green friendly house) while his other hand performs the deception (his super electricity consuming home). Prick. No one wanted to watch "The Inconveniant Truth" in Bio, but it's required. Every.... damn... year. The best part of the movie is when the audience laughs at him for being turned down as president. Good stuff. :D

And today's modern car emits less carbon emissions (about 50% less), but requires much more gas filled up each month. So basically we pay more for gas to emit the same amount of carbon into the air. Thanks government for cleverly bending us over the table once again. So buying an old car that emits more carbon makes no difference. I'd rather buy that car that runs souley on air (I think it's called the cAt or something like that), that sounds like it would do something.

Like my dad says all too often, "Always keep a bottle of lube, because everyone is out to fuck you in the ass, you might as well make it easier on yourself."

we had to watch bowlig for columbie i high school....wait for it....health. nutrition and propagada class apparently. You kow al gore caused more pollutio filmig that than the average busiess does i a year.?

--BTW, my "N" key is broke

You know Al Gore's house produces more pollution than a small town?

For a second, I was like, "Is he drunk or something?" ;) At least a couple Ns made it through.

If a teacher ever played that movie in my class, I would walk out. A few detentions are more than worth not having to stomach that garbage.

I just kept pointig out all the BS Moore was sayig, it was actually fun to get peole laughing at the scree

That wouldn't work in my school, people look at me as an outcast for liking guns, I'd be on my own. :(

Well, you do live i ew york. Mch differet tha ME, where most people own guns & we by over the counter no purchase permits or other commie BS. CCW is shall issue. at 18.

"Redline".

Google it if you must, but for the love of God, don't ever let yourself watch this willingly. How a guy manages to take three awesome things - hot girls, fast cars and gunfights - and fuck it all up escapes me to this day, but trust me, it happens here. It's the Fast and the Furious, without Vin Diesel. Or any actual form of talent, good or bad, for that matter. It takes the definition of suckage, kicks it in the nuts, and dumps on its' face. It makes some Sci-Fi Saturday Night Specials look Oscar-worthy. It is without a doubt THE WORST MOVIE EVER CREATED.

If you do somehow try to watch this and get the bright idea to have a drinking game to catalog every bad moment...DON'T. YOU WILL DIE BEFORE MINUTE 10.

Well when you are in High School, it's best not to tell your teachers especially that you like guns and war movies or hardcore action. You have to ease the idea of liking in a conversation to test how they feel, same with classmates. Because in school, you can't really trust anyone on how they really feel

I'm modest and don't tell most people, but my idiot friends introduce me as "John, the kid with a million guns" to people I meet for the first time. :mad: It doesn't help my credibility at all.

And you can't convince people that guns aren't that scary these days. In my school, I like guns, so I must be a) redneck b) pyschopath c) in a gang. It's all so stupid. I was once rejected by a girl because she was afraid of me! :eek:

My GF isn't interested in guns, at all. However, she's not agaist them. Her dad is a lifelog hunter/competitor so she kows there ot dangerous unless your a complete idiot

It's funny how off topic we've gotten again. :D My bad.

It's sad how women are much less likely to be gun fans. I'm not sexist or anything, but it seems like guys really outweigh the girls in this field.

I love how on the Outdoor Channel all the guys are so shocked by the "lady shooters" (as they refer to them), which sounds just a sexist to me as "baby making broad doing man's work" based on the way they say it. No offense of course. ;).

A girl who knows how to handle a firearm correctly is frankly very sexy. Not that "oh she's in a bikini and incorrectly holding a gun" crap, but a girl who can outshoot you in a competition. :D

One guy brought his GF to the trap rage & she was scorig real good, outshootig a lot of guys. Must admit, it was pretty hot. A lot of girls fear guns, i guess a girl ot being iterested is better thaN opposig them, she allows me to ejoy my hobby, its all good. I dont thik i cold ever be with a ati guNNer though.

Yeah that would suck. Women can try to change me all they want, I will never be torn from my guns. :D

It's good to have a girl who lets you do what you like and not try to control you.

I think a recent movie with guns that surprised me with the cliche "click" to tell gun is empty sound was Push. You'd expect a recent movie to at least lock their slides when empty but when I heard the clicking but no slide lock, it just pissed me off. Where did Hollywood get the notion that guns click empty instead of slide lock?

Apparently it's supposed to be more suspenseful, because some kind of dramatic music seemingly always follows the trigger click.

Personally I always thought seeing the slide lock back was more surreal. Heck, they could even put the dramatic music in if they wanted.

Some people show the gun lock empty AND the click, even though the trigger is disconnected and the only "click" would be almost inaudible. I guess non-gun people can't tell a locked open gun is empty unless it clicks.

I remember watching the remake of "House On Haunted Hill" on tv a few years back, and there is a scene where they are given pistols, SIGs, or lookalikes. They are discussing how they can't tell if the pistols are loaded with blanks, or not because the magazines are welded to the pistol. I'm yelling at the tv, that they're auto-loaders! Just push the slide back slightly, and look at the cartridge. Either the person that wrote that doesn't know anything about pistols, or he didn't care.

One of the boldest scenes had to be in "Phantoms". There is a scene in the Police station where they are talking about how the dead Deputy fired his weapon, and they show the expended rounds. Three expended blank rounds, not expended 9mm's casings, but blank rounds!

David.

Epic fail.

How hard is it to get 3 brass that isn't from a blank? Too easy, just ask the armorors