Transformers:Revenge of the Fallen
 

I just saw this film and I can say that there are alot more firearms in thid film than in the last one.

While I am not a big M-4 fan I like the custom M-4s with some unknown grenade launcher on it. You have your miniguns and both AH-1 Cobras and AH-64 Apache doing damage. Abrams tanks with both topguns going and at least one M-113 with a ma duce on it. AT-4 launchers...I'm rambling. It's a great film.

i thought some of them looked more like a HK416 myself but there definately were some M4s there.

You missed the hand held Dillon M134DT Titanium Minigun with a carbon fiber backpack ammo box with power source. I designed and built the hand hold mount for the Minigun. It's a different set up than the old style used in Terminator 2: Judgment Day. The set up for Transformer 2 is the same one we used in GI Joe except it was a standard M134 and not the Titanium model.

Against my better judgment, I went and saw this movie tonight. Frankly, I'm not quite sure why it's getting so much hate from critics. It's not great cinema or anything, but it's waaaayyy better directed than the first one. Bay wasn't nearly as schizophrenic with the camera angles this time, which was a welcome change. For a summer movie, it did its job.

I really didn't see the hand-held Miniguns at all, just the ones mounted on the backs of the vehicles. That's one of the problems with Bay, unfortunately...he isn't one of those directors who appreciates the visual impact of firearms on action and doesn't provide enough good close-ups of guns in his movies.

Also, can you tell us more about those custom M4s being wielded by Lennox and the other special forces?

Well the problem with this movie is that the story doesn't grab your attention. The action scenes were good, but that's all, the last battle in the desert seemed like a rehash of the desert battle scene from the first movie. We see too much screen time with Shia Labow or whatever his name is. Everytime the scene went back to him, I wanted to hang myself. The plot seemed full of too many holes, we got too many cliche characters, and comic relief like those 2 black sterortype cars with the gold teeth, the balls on the Devastator. The full ASS SHOT and front shot on the big screen. Megan Fox being a sex symbol being TOO much. I mean who details a motorcycle posing over it like that. The relationship is not believable. The parents are annoying, like the mom, we see 2 dogs fucking each other twice and once was more than enough and not funny. And in the end, nothing seems to be accomplished. It tried to be hard to be epic when it should tone it down.

That's why I'm seeing Public Enemies on July 1st instead for my birthday pary (by the way, today's my birthday, sweet sixteen!), and I'll just buy Tranformers 2 on DVD later on.

Thing is, people complained that the Transformers didn't do jack shit in the first movie (which I loved, along with the vast majority of Michael Bay's films).

Now, there's enough robot action and backstory to make Grant Imahara piss himself silly...and people still bitch.

As for LeBouf, he really seems to be getting better with each film. I remember him being the worst thing about I, Robot. Not so here - in fact, this might be the first Bay movie since the Rock where I've yet to find a single bad performance from anyone (and when I say bad, I mean sweet-Jesus, stop-the-presses, this-makes-Sci-Fi-Saturday-night-specials-look-awesome bad). Even John Tutorro, who I kinda hated in the first movie, redeemed himself quite a bit in Revenge of the Fallen. And I'm going to call it here and now - provided she keeps a decent head on her shoulders, Megan Fox will probably end up being hailed for some great performances in the future. Of course, if you think this is going to be one of them...*snickers*

I ended up seeing the first Transformers in theaters three times, because it was simply a really, really fun rollercoaster ride. Revenge of the Fallen takes all the good that the first one had and drops a 2000-lb JDAM full of concentrated awesome on it. The shit-eating grin on my face as I left the theater Wednesday night said that I will be back for this one again.

Can I quote you on the page on this movie?

as another member said we noticed the vehicle mounted minigun but missed the handheld model.

BTW, Happy Birthday. Now you can legally ...... do.....uh..... I guess you can do whatever you were doing before ..... carry on... :D

the real celebration is when you can vote, enter into a legally binding contract, buy alcohol, buy a long gun, buy a handgun(!), or can become the next big porn star (only if you have this burning desire to do so ;) )...... :D

According to a few aquaitances who've been in that buisiness. it's very overrated. Then think about what happened to a friend of mine. She was watching one of those films with a few mates and the guy in the scene looked really familiar. Then it hit her and her friends were treated with the immortal words... "Oh, my god that's my dad!":D

Personally I would stick with firearms as they are less likely to come back to haunt you.

Go right ahead on the quote. I have see a still with the backback minigun and it was in one of the trailers.

I wonder if anybody noticed the L85 Bullpups in the film.

*falls out of chair laughing* :D

First of all, Happy B-Day, John! 16 is still kind of a fun age, if you have your license by then (I got mine around that time). But yes, 18 and 21 are waaaayyyy better. Unfortunately, it's all downhill after that (or, at least, it has been for me, so far). :(

I think I missed them, but I'm guessing they were used by the British NEST operators?

All I remember seeing clearly in the movie were the tricked-out M4s, the modded M249s, the Miniguns mounted in the jeeps, AKMs on the backs of the Egyptian border guards, and the M2s fitted to the Humvees.

Oh, I agree with you completely that the story and the characters were completely unnecessary to the plot (personally, if I'd been the director of these movies, I would have axed Shia LaBeouf completely and made Lennox and his men into the main human characters). But really, let's face it - summer movies rarely have memorable characters or interesting stories.

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The other problem is that, not that I diss the military. I love the military in all it's glory, but the movie over glorified it and also made them as useful as they would be in a Godzilla movie. Seriously, they are fighting giant robots, even in the new movie, their weapons pretty much stink half the time. I can turn all the scenes with Lennox and his team into an ad for all the armed forces by making it as epic as possible. "Join the army...and fight robots from space."

One of the worse performances is when the Sam character and Megan's character were doing the "I want a break up, but quickly back to a relationship" was so unbelievable, it looks like it was tacked on. The mom getting high on brownies made from weed was very stupid and bad acting there.

As with the bots, you could barely tell which Decepticons was which, at points I couldnt tell Starscream from Megatron. We barely get to see Ironhide or Ratchet talk, those black cliche cars got more screen time than Bumblebee. Optimus was dead for over half the movie and they got that weird bot that can look like a person just for the whole sex appeal thing. The RC motorcycle bots got almost no screentime before both of them got shot at the end of the movie and the ending battle really ended very abruptly and had a very anti-climactic feel. It's like you're having sex and it's very fun and amazing and then suddenly it just ends. The whole climax and afterglow blows by you so fast just when it felt like it was getting even better.

I like how the military was an effective fighting force that did some damage, the first movie they just got their asses kicked. There was some good action, i liked the movie.

I am not dissing the action of the humans, but since this was a movie based on a cartoon based on a series of toys by Hasbro that was based on Japanese toys which did their own tv series...the human military is as effective as they would be in a Godzilla movie...not the American Godzilla movie, that movie was crap.

Well, look at it this way...do you think the DoD would have loaned Michael Bay all of the hardware you see in this movie unless they were portrayed in a positive manner? Those M1A2s and Bradleys and CH-53s and all that other shit you saw in the film came with a price.

Personally, while watching the movie, there were some scenes where I could almost hear the liaison standing over Bay's shoulder and saying, "OK, Mr. Bay, we need you to make sure you have the M1A2 in the center of the shot so that the 13-year old boys will all get a good look at it. Tell your cinematographer to make sure the focus is on the tank."

The military was incompetent in the American Godzilla movie, too. :D

Speaking of which, note the coincidence: The dude who played the lead military officer in the American "Godzilla" is the same actor who plays Shia LaBeouf's dad in both "Transformers" movies. (damn, I read IMDB too much...)

Maybe I'm wierd, but I liked Godzilla (2008).

And have no shame in reading IMDb often, it is a wonderful tool which greatly aids the making of pages on IMFDb. Those who don't use it don't follow proper format though...

I have yet to see Transformers 2, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

I read an interview in a... uhhh.... magazine :D where Shia LaBeouf talked about the movie, and apparently one of the explosions set a guiness world record. People tend to hate him, but after reading that interview I gotta say, he's a funny guy.

There was a 2008 Godzilla movie? How the hell did I miss that?



Oh, that's why the dad in Transformers was so familiar. And well I didn't like the American Godzilla movie because...they fucking KILLED Godzilla. The one major idea of a Godzilla movie is that the military is useless against giant things that either breaths fire or made of metal. Forget logic and reason, it's the terror factor of unstoppable monster. I hated the fact they killed Godzilla in the American movie. That was bullshit.

I meant 1998, my mind must have been elsewhere :rolleyes:

Just recently saw this. It blew the first one away (at least for me...but that's probably not saying much, since I enjoyed Doom... ;) ).

I did see the handheld minigun, but I was too blinded by the giant alien robots tearing up Shanghai (I think it was Shanghai) to be concerned with the realistic aspect of it. :p

I cried when Optimus did his transform/skydive onto Shanghai.