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'Public Enemies' Update: 1st minute of Little Bohemia shootout on Youtube!
See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O58RcguZkzs
The super .38 machine pistol is seen very briefly at about 24 sec. into the clip. I'm glad they went to the trouble to make one for the film, but since it's Michael Mann I guess I shouldn't be surprised. |
I'm screencapping the scene right now with youtube HD, and I'm getting some good shots.
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*Drools* I haven't been this excited about a movie with Tommy Guns before. Only Michael Mann can make the Prohibition era seem this awesome again. :cool:
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Public Enemies Screencaps
Here's some screencaps I took for the page with the HD youtueb trailer. Site worthy? P.S., my slow-ass computer made this very difficult me and I had to cope with some great shots being missed, but whatever.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2zgaxk5.jpg Purvis (or not, I can't tell) firing an M1928 Thompson. http://i40.tinypic.com/sz8rit.jpg Dillenger firing his Thompson. http://i44.tinypic.com/2qb7gw6.jpg One of Purvis' men firing a Winchester 1887 shotgun. (have a non-muzzle flash shot as well, but this post is limited to four images) http://i41.tinypic.com/98wmio.jpg This is from the HD trailer, I tried to get a better shot of Purvis' sporter Mauser 98. It appears to have double set triggers and that funny bolt handle that I can't remember the name of.... |
Ah what the hell, here's the non-muzzle flash Winchester 1887 shot:
http://i41.tinypic.com/9t272x.jpg Here's the best shot I could grab of Dillenger's machine pistol: http://i42.tinypic.com/wbqn4n.jpg A good shot of the BAR one of Purvis' men uses was missed by my slow computer on the HD trailer, but on the regular low-res youtube video I grabbed the shot I wanted: http://i39.tinypic.com/mww12d.jpg |
God, I'm seeing this movie opening day, no doubt. This is one of those movies I live to screencap, but since Speakeasy804 did the trailer caps, he has first call.
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Are these site worthy or are these too low res?
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they look great, but the B.A.R. pic isnt all that good. no offense
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I know the BAR shot sucks, its from normal Youtube, I couldn't grab the same shot on the HD video version. I'll see if I can attempt it on my sister's computer so I'll have a better HD image. Then I'll put them on the IMFDB page. :D
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I got two good shots of the BAR now with my sister's computer and a better shot of the machine pistol.
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Heck yes they are site worthy IMHO.
That one minute clip was great. Thank you for posting it! :D |
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Well now I have to add him to my list of favorite actors.
And for those who haven't seen Public Enemies yet, it is excellent. Most of the shootouts are a little short but appear frequently enough to be satisfying. The full, uncut Little Bohemia shootout was intense, definately the " 'Heat' bank shootout" of this film. :D Sadly, Nelson is the only one who is seen using the .38 Super pistol, and not very often. I saw only 1 shot other than the one I already had on the page that was good enough to see the weapon. Oh, and this film is a gun-lovers dream. Nice and loud gunfire (although a little inconcistant at times), pretty good gun handling, great close ups, and some interesting dialogue, one where Purvis mentions to his G-men that they are issued "Thompson submachine guns, BARs, and Winchester .351 semi-automatic rifles." He's talking about Winchester 1907s BTW. I won't spoil anything new for you (although most people know Dillinger died in 1934, so big surprise. :eek:). Spoiling the movie by saying Dillinger dies is like spoiling King Kong (1933), a 76 year old movie, by telling you King Kong dies in the end. People already know. ;). Trust me on one thing, there is plenty of unspoiled material left to enjoy this work of art film. I highly recommend it, it was great. |
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You SOB you spoiled it for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: |
Remington Model 11
Was the Remington Model 11 autoloading shotgun used in the movie? I thought I saw it in the trailer but It's not listed on the "Public Enemies" page.
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Yeah, Homer Van Meter carries a sawed-off Model 11 at a few points in the movie, which you can see in the famous Dillinger gang weapons display. The sawed off BARs they carried, were, interestingly, real, but it was carried by Clyde Barrow, not Dillinger.
http://texashideout.tripod.com/scatgun.html |
Some of them were used by FBI agents too, but they could have been Browning A5s.
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How accurate was it historically?
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Well, lets just say they used a lot of creative liscensing.
For instance, Pretty Boy Floyd and Baby Face Nelson died after Dillinger was killed in real life, yet both die before him in the film. When Dillinger is in jail in Tuscon, Purvis visits him in his cell. Purvis never visited Dillinger when he was imprisoned. It was the good/bad confrontation though, typical in many Micheal Mann films. Many of the bank jobs were either changed, extended, or combined off of several robberies. I can't nitpick on other stuff without spoiling things, but they weren't exactly dead on in historical accuracy. None-the-less, it was a great film with an excellent story. |
I just saw it, very good movie.
It's probably going to be one of my favorites. |
Comments will be minor spoilers ish
Yeah what about the train robbery? Did he ever do that one in real life? He entered the Chicago police station into the room that was solely for him and looked at pictures of himself, his gang and everything. What was the point of all that? I thought he had a master plan about it. Also isn't the .38 super pistol was Dillenger's gun used by him? We shoulda saw more of that in the movie instead of Nelson. Also too bad we didn't get to see him use the Remington rifle Also accurately enough, they called the FBI just Buearu of Investigations, at the time, it wasn't a "Federal" agency yet as it is today. I think it turned into the FBI in 1936 |
I don't know about the train robbery. Seems a little far fetched. But then again, Dillinger didn't have any association with Frank Nitti or Chicago crime sindicates under the work of Al Capone, so I don't think any of that stuff was real.
When he entered the police station, I think it was just to show how mocking Dillinger is. I mean, he waltz into the police station where there is "The Dillinger Squad" all working hard to find him, and there he is, and they don't recognize him! I mean, he even asks the score the baseball game so all the guys working see him! I doubt he did this in real life but it added to Dillinger's character. I was very disappointed by the fact Dillinger never used his .38 Super machine pistol. I was glad they at least put it in the movie though. Shame that pyscho Nelson was he only one who used it though. I was pleased to see Dillinger used his Thompson accurate to history, using a sling wrapped around his shoulder as opposed to the stock and only using 20-round magazines. Made it easier to conceal and he could carry more sticks than drums. I don't know if they could even fire the Remington Model 8 without making custom (IE time consuming and expensive) blanks, since that gun was in all sorts of oddball calibers like .35 Rem. |
.35 remington is quite common, i see lots of it on shelves. Barely see any 38 sper though. And of course, .351 winchester is never seen.
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Dillinger would go to the chicago police dept, and to different stations across the country because he got a kick out of it. He often changed his look though, and remember a lot of cops back then were not even high school educated. They gave the jobs to anyone big and strong, and in those days nobody turned the jobs down as it was the depression. Cops in 1933 are not like cops in 2009.
Also, Dillinger's gang robbed 2 or 3 police stations to steal guns. In Chicago, Dillinger used the name of another criminal who was a dead ringer for him too, they looked very much alike. I can't remember the fellows name. Jimmy something or other. The other guy could never pull off Dillinger, but there was a big conspiracy about it when they gunned him down, that it was the other guy, not Dillinger, that Purvis and the FBI had screwed up again. He used Capone/mob armorers. He was never in the mob, but he used their resources when he needed too. He was famous, so they liked having him around. He was like a rock star. And he payed his own way with that stuff too. he payed them well. I saw the film this weekend, and I absolutely loved it. It was not particularly accurate in some ways, but it was amazingly accurate in some of the best ways. The ending was pretty amazing, even though the very, very end of it was pure fantasy, it put an emotional exclamation point on the film that I thought really worked. There is an HBO documentary/behind the scenes playing, and there are some really great books about Dillinger that Mann obviously read as research. Other than not having him change his look, and they truncated some timeframe stuff, it was probably the most accurate portrayal of the Dillinger story I've seen. If you get a chance to see that jailhouse interview/reel, they did an excellent job of recreating that. The flares. The airplanes of the time. The weapons used. I'm not sure Dillinger ever used that 38 super himself. It was part of his gang's arsenal. |
I lived near Crown Point, so I got a chance to see that jail house he escaped in and my buddy actually got to meet Johnny Dep. The guy's kinda shy in real life.
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Went offbase and saw it today, was awesome, but not overly tre to history. None of the gang died at little bohemia. But it was an AWESOME movie gunfight.
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i thought it was pretty cool because they filmed it where i go to school. I was laughing my ass off and i told the guy next to me that they were shooting up my town. lol
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