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k9870 05-31-2009 07:47 PM

Best gun movies
 
Heading to A school and want to bring some good movies. I know there was a thread on most realistic gun movies, but im looking for the most entertaining. What do you think are the most entertaining gun movies?

MT2008 05-31-2009 07:56 PM

"The Replacement Killers" is a pretty good Chow Yun-Fat movie with high production value and lots of well-choreographed gun play. Not quite as good as the John Woo movies it rips off, but for pure fun value, it's one of the more underrated, IMO.

Excalibur 05-31-2009 09:06 PM

If you want to talk favorite John Woo movies, it's always going to be Hard Boiled.

k9870 05-31-2009 09:11 PM

Seen hardboiled enough times.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 12:17 AM

Good movies with guns? Hmmm, let me think...

In particular order:

* Lord of War

* Predator

* Last Action Hero

* Terminator 2: Judgement Day

* Shoot 'Em Up (not a good movie but has lots of guns and shootouts)

* SWAT

* Dirty Harry

* The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

* Die Hard 1,2,3,4

* Full Metal Jacket

* Black Hawk Down

* Saving Private Ryan

* Enemy at the Gates

* Heartbreak Ridge

* The Outlaw Josey Wales

* The Boondock Saints

* Last Man Standing

* Collateral

* Collateral Damage (forgetable but fun)

* The Rundown

* The Rock

The list goes on and on...

ManiacallyChallenged 06-01-2009 05:12 AM

The Killer, Hard Boiled, Children of Men(more of a drama, but with some of the most memorable camera work in recent memory showcasing epic war), Hot Fuzz(not until the end).

AdAstra2009 06-01-2009 06:17 AM

Face/off, Equilibrium

Spartan198 06-01-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3361)
* The Rundown

Rundown was entertaining, but it cracked me up when they had the Rock firing scoped M1As akimbo... :eek:

ManiacallyChallenged 06-01-2009 05:40 PM

I forgot one, then remembered it, but forgot it again.
Argh.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 3404)
Rundown was entertaining, but it cracked me up when they had the Rock firing scoped M1As akimbo... :eek:

He fired them with one hand but he never fired two at a time.

k9870 06-01-2009 07:35 PM

He dual wielded 870s, which as we all know is impossible. He also seems incapable of a 2 handed grip, at least shoulder the m14

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 07:49 PM

I've tried to do what he does with the 870s, and it is not that easy. First off, even the smoothest pump is very hard to cycle when you pin them under your armpits. Then you have to take into account how the ejecting shell would more than likely be blocked and jam up the action. Then when you try to swing them back up to the ready by twirling them by the trigger guard, the weight of the gun sets off the triggers. So he would only be capable of doing it if he flicked the safeties on, and you can see he didn't (at least, they probably cut it out for time constraints). So it is cool to watch but very tactically inefficient and not very easy to do in real life. But who cares? It's a movie.

When I saw The Rundown for the first time, I was like "Stop unloading the guns and tossing them away and just USE them!" but he's like "When I use guns, bad things happen to people." I rolled my eyes, believing this guy was going to be some pacifist brawler who someone would take on a million guys with his bare hands. I was relieved (actually, I was more like "HELL YEAH!") when he picks up the 870s and the rock music begins.

k9870 06-01-2009 08:08 PM

Just try firing a single 870, one handed. It was brutal with light target birdshot loads. I can only imagine bickshot:eek:

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 08:15 PM

I have before. :D I do it whenever I shoot a shotgun actually, I guess I just have a strong wrist. Keeping my pimp hand strong! ;)

I remember I shot a Winchester Model 12 one handed once and destroyed a pumpkin with it. I also do it a lot with pistol gripped shotgun like my Cruiser. If you hold it wrong though with one hand you bruise your trigger finger pretty bad, since the trigger guard hits it hard on the recoil.

But for Dwayne, I can imagine it was all too easy without any recoil. That's funny that such a tough guy doesn't actually take the tough road. Reminds me of how Stallone's bow in the Rambo films was custom built with a wimpy 20lb draw weight. Beefcake!

k9870 06-01-2009 08:19 PM

I only tried once, somehow i dont think my range safety officers would take kindly to firing my 12 ga one handed. I tried one handing my friends kimber but i got no stability so just used my 2 handed grip. I fired a winchester 94 one handed and can say thats worse than the remington, it is one of the ones with cheapo stocks. I remember you mentioning you prefer winchester to marlin. How does the finish on old winchesters hold up to new marlins? I must say I thought the finish on these winchesters sucked big time

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 08:26 PM

To be more precise, I love all Winchesters except the sloppy piece of crap Winchester 1894. The lever is all over the place and it isn't nearly as smooth as an 1892. I also like the 66 and 73 Winchesters, but they aren't smooth because the ones I own are from the friggin 1800s! Modern copies are pretty nice though.

I'd say Winchester's finish holds up pretty well as does Marlin's. They are both equally fine made guns, but I think Winchesters look nicer and the Winchester 1892 is probably the best lever action rifle ever made (which isn't a shock since John M. Browning designed it). But goddamn shirtmaker Oliver Winchester cheapened the production of the guns, which turned the well made 1894 into the POS I know and hate and made the 1892 only to descent standards.

k9870 06-01-2009 08:27 PM

Where can you get an 1892? I love the Marlin, so I may just go with one eventually. The 1894c seems cool, if there was any pistol ammo on shelves.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 08:40 PM

I'm not sure, all the ones my dad owns are originals. Winchester stopped producing them in the 1930s I believe (and Winchester made them the best), so I guess you can only get them from reproduction companies now. I doubt they have the same quality though. I saw this one gun by Puma that is a 92 Saddle Ring with a big lever loop like John Wayne's rifle.

k9870 06-01-2009 08:52 PM

I just wish savge would bring back the model 99, accustock, accustrigger stainless. And someone could start making more 260 or 6.5x55 ammo.....


Or a quality wood stock. Way i see it is: Good weather wood, it looks nice.

Bad weather (maine snow) stainless/synthetic.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 09:58 PM

I was never partial to the Savage 99. I thought the lever action felt clumsy and heavy. I prefer the Winchester Model 88, I always thought that was a superior lever gun.

I actually plan to add another gun to my zombie movie, an original Marlin (can't remember what date it is, maybe 1894?, but not the 94C) in .45-70. It is a really old gun but I figured every zombie movie needs a lever gun and why not make it a big one? It has a very large appearance and a long lever action so it looks even bigger than it is.

k9870 06-01-2009 10:00 PM

My GFs dad has an 1895 guide gun 45-70. Said its quick handling, drops anything hes hunting, and kicks like a mule with heavier loads.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 10:04 PM

The thing I don't like about newer Marlins is that there side ejection port allows a scope to be added, but it makes the guns look so UGLY.

Spartan198 06-02-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3419)
He fired them with one hand but he never fired two at a time.

Ah, my mistake. But, still, I can't imagine trying to hold a fire a full-sized .308 M14/M1A one-handed, much less firing it. But, for the record, I'm 5'11' and 215 lbs, not 6'5" and 270 lbs, so who knows.

ManiacallyChallenged 06-02-2009 11:26 PM

This might not be nearly relevant, but I sort of vowed to never use the phrase: "kicks like a mule" until I get kicked by a mule(or donkey/horse, whatever).

Gunmaster45 06-03-2009 04:21 AM

Well, the term is grossly over-exaggerated. If you were kicked by a mule, you could likely break a bone and be knocked down but even the 600 Nitro, the biggest bang for your buck, isn't capable of this.

And if you get kicked by a mule and are severely injured, you may never get to shoot again, so use the term while you still can! :D

I always was humored by the thought that when you fired a large gun, the stock would open and a spring loaded boot would launch out and KICK you, cartoon style.

ShootingJames 06-03-2009 08:04 AM

Here are some of my favorite "gun movies" in NO particular order.

Escape from New York

Appleseed (the first CG version)

Open Range

Dead Bang

HEAT

The Shootist

3:10 To Yuma (the remake)

Die Hard (first one is still the best one IMHO)

Aliens

True Grit

Mr. & Mrs. Smith

Hard Boiled

Quigley Down Under

Running Scared (the old one, with Billy Crystal, was funny and had some action in it)

Ronin

The Getaway (I'm one of the few people who likes both versions. LOVE the original)

I could go on and on. :)

Excalibur 06-03-2009 10:45 AM

Actually, Appleseed Ex Machina was better than the first one since it had more shooting action and was produced by the master of gun shooting movie, John Woo.

See for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a7J9_cpLqM

Gunmaster45 06-03-2009 09:42 PM

Oh man, I forgot to add westerns.

Quigley Down Under was great with that with pro-gun guy Tom Selleck in the lead, although the writers must have been pretty big rocking chair commandos, since whenever someone is hit by a .45-110 round from the Sharps, he is launched through the air. I have to add to that page, I missed some stuff (it was the first page I ever made with screencaps BTW).

True Grit is one of my all time favorite films, although Kim Darby's acting sucks.

Open Range was a realistic western except for the 16 shot revolvers and the people being thrown around. I liked it but this stood out a bit.

The Shootist was a good film, although it wasn't neccessarily realistic. It has a lot of the the movie themes present that fill the spot where realism goes.

The new 3:10 to Yuma was an excellent film, mainly because Thell Reed taught the firearms training. It was also very authentic, although some editing problems gave a double barreled shotgun the ability to fire three rounds.

Of all gun movies, two stand out as the best, and that is Heat and Collateral. Michael Mann is an excellent director and his favoring of weapons training makes the movie much better. I think Tom Cruise handled firearms in Collateral better than any actor I've seen in previous films.

k9870 06-04-2009 01:07 AM

I have Quigley, Have the Dirty harry box set, 310 to yuma, and a few of the listed ones. Ill be picking up a couple movies soon.

Gunmaster45 06-04-2009 01:17 AM

I just got Quigley Down Under back from someone who I let borrow it, so I might add some caps on Friday (I missed the bootpistol used at the end). And some good Sharps images couldn't hurt.

Rockwolf66 06-04-2009 05:03 AM

As far as Gun Films go I have to say Nemisis is the best Cyberpunk gun film. If I didn't have it only on VHS I would get a friend who wants to help me screencap it with his computer.

ShootingJames 06-05-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3533)
Oh man, I forgot to add westerns.

How could you?:)

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Quigley Down Under was great with that with pro-gun guy Tom Selleck in the lead, although the writers must have been pretty big rocking chair commandos, since whenever someone is hit by a .45-110 round from the Sharps, he is launched through the air. I have to add to that page, I missed some stuff (it was the first page I ever made with screencaps BTW).
I don't think anybody is going to fault you for missing some stuff. You do a lot of work around here!

And as for folks getting launched through the air, it's a movie. :) As long as it entertains and captivates, I can forgive the hollywood bullet hits. In fact some times I like that stuff.

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True Grit is one of my all time favorite films, although Kim Darby's acting sucks.
I'm a big John Wayne fan. Made my wife sit through "Stagecoach" a few nights ago when it aired on cable. She fell asleep halfway through. She hates westerns.

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Open Range was a realistic western except for the 16 shot revolvers and the people being thrown around. I liked it but this stood out a bit.
I know what you mean. Honestly, I don't consider any film to ever be realistic. Film is a dramatic medium, it glorifies and romanticizes whatever is in frame. It's nothing like real life, even when they try and make them real.

Open Range was a good flick that worked on a storytelling level. It had wonderful setups and payoffs, and it had a good solid emotional core. I don't mind if the film misses a few reloads here and there.

The kills are almost symbolic in how violent or non violent they are. The more "important" or suspenseful kills tend to me more violent. Or, throw people more.

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The Shootist was a good film, although it wasn't neccessarily realistic. It has a lot of the the movie themes present that fill the spot where realism goes.
I sincerely doubt that realism mattered to the folks who made The Shootist. And honestly it never mattered to me as an audience member. Films are just like dime novels, they are not truth. :cool: I'm OK with that.

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The new 3:10 to Yuma was an excellent film, mainly because Thell Reed taught the firearms training. It was also very authentic, although some editing problems gave a double barreled shotgun the ability to fire three rounds.
Thell Reed has worked on some of my favorite flicks. Big fan. Have you ever seen him shoot? It's like watching a pint size Jerry Miculek. He's FAST. He's a little guy, but he has a lot of power in his presence. 10 foot tall and bulletproof type guy.

http://www.thellreed.com He has a cool site.

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Of all gun movies, two stand out as the best, and that is Heat and Collateral. Michael Mann is an excellent director and his favoring of weapons training makes the movie much better. I think Tom Cruise handled firearms in Collateral better than any actor I've seen in previous films.
Big Mann fan here too. But even Mann puts drama into his shootouts and gunplay. I thought Cruise was a little too rigid in his stances and movements, but he sold it. It worked for his character to be that sort of "lockjaw" type shooter. Cruise is a good actor though. I even liked MI3. :eek:

Gunmaster45 06-06-2009 01:06 AM

Yeah, but I don't know if you can consider Cruise to be... all there. But don't tell Xenon I said that! :rolleyes:

And I've visited Thell Reed's site before, I sent him an email asking him to tell me some stuff about 3:10 to Yuma for the site but all I got was an email from the site manager telling me he'd tell Thell. Since I have yet to recieve a reply, I'll assume he forgot or hope not to assume Thell didn't give a shit...

ShootingJames 06-07-2009 01:29 AM

:D I agree, Cruise is not all there. Equal parts sincere and psychotic it seems like.

I very nearly worked on a film in clearwater florida that would have been shot in a mansion in his neighborhood. We scouted about 4 places around his complex, which was under construction at the time. HUGE place.

Downtown clearwater is like Scientology city these days. It's creepy.

I saw Nemesis was mentioned in this thread too. That was a pretty cool flick for it's day. I think that might be Albert Pyun's best film to date. He's made some real stinkers. :p

Would be great to get some input from Thell Reed. I'd imagine he's probably just really busy. I hope he wouldn't just offhandedly ignore you anyway.

So what good gun movies are we not listing here?

:confused:

When do you ship out anyway?

k9870 06-07-2009 01:33 AM

flight at 525 am tomorrow, im bringing a few (Dirty harry box set, street kings, hot fuzz, great raid (ill screencap this) etc.) can buy some more there and theres a movie theater on base and one down the road.


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