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Chitoryu12 03-24-2013 04:40 AM

Photoshop That Gun
 
Hey all! I've recently gotten Photoshop CS6 and my sister (who's been editing images longer than me, being a photographer) has been helping me get into the swing of things. I've made a few shops, the most complex being this one, and I'd like to try my hand at some of the firearm modifications I've seen done on IMFDB like making the Mauser T-Gewehr look like the Red Dead Redemption Explosive Rifle.

So if anyone has a request for a particular shop, like mixing up parts into a custom gun or seeing what this gun would look like with that stock, make a request and I'll try my best to make it come to life!

This is the first one I did, since MP5s and UMPs are very similar to the point of modularity (from a Photoshopping standpoint). Very easy, just replacing the stock of an MP5A2 with the buttcap from an SP-89 pistol and the magazine of a UMP-45.

http://i50.tinypic.com/be7g2.jpg

Rockwolf66 03-24-2013 05:56 AM

Lets see you make the following AK.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...rouble_AK2.jpg

or even more challenging the following G36

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps0a0e607e.jpg

MoviePropMaster2008 03-24-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitoryu12 (Post 38411)
So if anyone has a request for a particular shop, like mixing up parts into a custom gun or seeing what this gun would look like with that stock, make a request and I'll try my best to make it come to life!

I don't know if any of you remember that there was a controversy some years back when a few members were taking my original images, photoshopping them into other variants, and then taking credit for the image 100%. It was a definite no no on IMFDB and a real no no in the world of Copyright. It was called 'making Franken guns". There is something about photoshopping guns like that which makes the gun look fake (like the shadows or light source at the adjoining parts don't match how the real gun would look). That's why I try to make a real variant and photograph that, so that the general public doesn't believe that most of IMFDB's gun catalog is of 'artist's rendition of guns'. Ugh. that would irritate me to no end.

Though I have obviously have no problem with PSing images of guns (I've fixed damage, shape of trigger guards, removed trademarks, removed rust, obscured serial numbers if the owner requests it, and fixed minor details like nicks, partial stickers and tags, fixed furniture, fixed optics, or color corrected the image due to weird lighting when the photo was taken.) But I have never created a gun out of thin air with PS. I think it should be avoided if at all possible. If the item is not possible to be created in real life, then the image should be listed as an 'artist' approximation using photoshop and crediting the original source material.

Chitoryu12 03-24-2013 08:44 PM

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But I have never created a gun out of thin air with PS. I think it should be avoided if at all possible. If the item is not possible to be created in real life, then the image should be listed as an 'artist' approximation using photoshop and crediting the original source material.
Well, I haven't stated any intention to make fake guns and pass them off as real. Considering that I've made this thread under a username that I commonly use and the images can be easily traced back here to where I outright state that they're fakes, there should be little issue unless a forum member steals the pictures and tries to use them elsewhere. In that case, this thread will provide an immediate source for them (and I list all of the parts I used and unique source images if necessary).

All right, let's see how close I can get. It's easiest to make an image if I have a blank white source (like the ones on IMFDB) so I can easily mix and match the parts without editing out the background.

This one uses an AK-101 as the base, with the pistol grip from an Arsenal 5.56mm AR-M4SF seen here. The drum is a standard AK 75-round drum from an AIMS source picture. The rails come from this AK used for the Modern Warfare 2 article. I went into Pimp My Gun myself to check on the stock, and found that it's an ACE SOCOM stock. Sourced from redwolfairsoft.com. Flash hider is taken from this Mk. 14 EBR. The rail along the top comes from a Kerbs Custom railed top from Midway USA. The backup rear sight was probably the hardest, since there's almost no photos I could find of just the sight in profile. But I eventually found a set of A.R.M.S. on Mitchell Supply that I could use.

I left a little nub under the barrel like in the photo that the cleaning rod used to be attached to. Moved the front sight to the gas block and removed the rear sight entirely (since a BUIS would make it redundant).

Still not a perfect replica, though. I have no clue what the silvery piece on the receiver is, and I couldn't find a chunk of metal/plastic to put behind the foremost top rail that matched the appearance. And the obvious difficulties with lighting and shading between pictures (most obvious in the stock and flash hider). The barrel is also still deceivingly full length due to the sheer size of the flash hider.

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zptrg1.jpg

Spartan198 03-24-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitoryu12 (Post 38418)
I have no clue what the silvery piece on the receiver is

Enlarged charging handle.

Rockwolf66 03-25-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitoryu12 (Post 38418)
This one uses an AK-101 as the base, with the pistol grip from an Arsenal 5.56mm AR-M4SF seen here. The drum is a standard AK 75-round drum from an AIMS source picture. The rails come from this AK used for the Modern Warfare 2 article. I went into Pimp My Gun myself to check on the stock, and found that it's an ACE SOCOM stock. Sourced from redwolfairsoft.com. Flash hider is taken from this Mk. 14 EBR. The rail along the top comes from a Kerbs Custom railed top from Midway USA. The backup rear sight was probably the hardest, since there's almost no photos I could find of just the sight in profile. But I eventually found a set of A.R.M.S. on Mitchell Supply that I could use.

I left a little nub under the barrel like in the photo that the cleaning rod used to be attached to. Moved the front sight to the gas block and removed the rear sight entirely (since a BUIS would make it redundant).

Still not a perfect replica, though. I have no clue what the silvery piece on the receiver is, and I couldn't find a chunk of metal/plastic to put behind the foremost top rail that matched the appearance. And the obvious difficulties with lighting and shading between pictures (most obvious in the stock and flash hider). The barrel is also still deceivingly full length due to the sheer size of the flash hider.

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zptrg1.jpg

Not that bad. On the source image the pistol grip is a M249 style grip. the dustcover rail is a TWS gen 2 dogleg, the hand guard rail is a Krebs rail system and the flash suppressor is a Smith Enterprises Vortex system.

As Spartan said it's a Galil style charging handle.

Chitoryu12 03-25-2013 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 38419)
Enlarged charging handle.

That thing is hella enlarged! Probably weighs as much as a Beretta by itself if it's solid metal.

Anyways, here's my take on the G36.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps0a0e607e.jpg

It was easier than you'd expect, since it's basically a modified SL-8. I used an SL-8 already fitted with the 30 round magazine as the base, and gave it the entire forend of a G36C as a same-size replacement for the longer forend and barrel. Erased the carrying handle and gave it the G36C one as well, slightly modified in size to fit. M68 Aimpoint red dot off of an M4A1 pic and the Surefire forend from a Colt Model 933, all from IMFDB.

In the future I plan on doing color correction and some deeper editing to better improve how the parts mesh.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1y5w2h.jpg

Rockwolf66 03-25-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitoryu12 (Post 38422)
That thing is hella enlarged! Probably weighs as much as a Beretta by itself if it's solid metal.

Not as much as you would think. It would be more like a Galil charging handle. the one used in my image was an X-47 Airsoft Charging handle. basically something so that I can use more than a finger and thumb to cock the firearm.

Mr.Ice 03-27-2013 02:34 AM

I always thought that the wiki needed screenshots of weapons with attachments such as an M4A1 fitted with an EOTech sight.

commando552 03-27-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Ice (Post 38438)
I always thought that the wiki needed screenshots of weapons with attachments such as an M4A1 fitted with an EOTech sight.

The problem with that is it is incredibly hard to scale something like that correctly. Just look at the picture of the PS G36 above where the Aimpoint is way too small.

Mr.Ice 03-27-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 38440)
The problem with that is it is incredibly hard to scale something like that correctly. Just look at the picture of the PS G36 above where the Aimpoint is way too small.

Im not an expert in PS but what about applying custom finishes as some pages need those types of images as well (i.e a HK UMP with tan furniture for the "White House Down" page).

commando552 03-28-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Ice (Post 38443)
Im not an expert in PS but what about applying custom finishes as some pages need those types of images as well (i.e a HK UMP with tan furniture for the "White House Down" page).

Just saying in case anyone tries to do it, it isn't a UMP but a B&T APC9.

Rockwolf66 04-06-2013 08:24 PM

I have a new gun for you to 'Shop.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps2f12dcb1.jpg

It's a MAC/Glock hybrid with a folding stock. I've seen a few real ones floating around.

Chitoryu12 04-15-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 38568)
I have a new gun for you to 'Shop.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps2f12dcb1.jpg

It's a MAC/Glock hybrid with a folding stock. I've seen a few real ones floating around.

Interesting design. And more than a little ugly, but that's just my opinion!

The MAC-10 upper and Glock 17 frame were taken from IMFDB, while the stock and rail came from here. Relatively simple meshing of parts; the hardest part is just airbrushing out the original MAC-10 stock because it intersects the rear sight at one point. Then I just combine the bits and use Hue & Saturation to change their color tones to match a bit better. Unfortunately, it wasn't until I uploaded that I noticed that I forgot to do the sights up!

http://i46.tinypic.com/15p0ra9.jpg

My next project of sorts will be trying to make some of the odder custom guns from video games.

Chitoryu12 04-18-2013 04:21 AM

This is a modification I had been wanting to try out for a while: cutting the exposed barrel entirely from a P38. To replace the missing sight, I used a modified Colt Anaconda sight (red insert removed and shape changed slightly) recolored to better match the pistol. I also obliterated the markings. Without the extended barrel, it kinda gives the impression of a lost Beretta concept.

http://i45.tinypic.com/6huplc.jpg

Image source from here.

Chitoryu12 04-18-2013 06:15 AM

I made a selection of guns in a short time span for Nation States. Along with the cut down P38, there's a few (all made from IMFDB or Wikipedia source images) that I added.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2s96qf6.jpg
P99 slide mated to a P88 frame. Upon suddenly realizing after posting that it had a swapped ejection port, I quickly bullshitted a story about it being a gun with ambidextrous controls made for a left-handed major general.

http://i46.tinypic.com/33kyosz.jpg
A modification to my first SMG design with a G36 stock to make it more practical.

http://i46.tinypic.com/16kp1tj.jpg
A big mish-mash of parts. G36 as a base with a telescopic stock and magazine taken from a custom AK (I believe the one in the Modern Warfare 2 article) and a red dot sight on what remains of the rear of the carry handle/optics.

Chitoryu12 04-24-2013 01:07 PM

A big variety of new guns. All source images are IMFDB.

http://i45.tinypic.com/20iasm1.jpg
HK21E modified with the entire front half and barrel of an M249 Para (stretched out to mimic the HK21E's length) and a Mk. 48 Mod 1 stock.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2zz6lux.jpg
A very simple job: M240D with the barrel, front sight, and gas tube from a PKM shortened and widened to resemble a compact .50 caliber weapon.

http://i46.tinypic.com/30kpmar.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/rbee7k.jpg
A more complex job. Base is an StG-57 with the magazine from an M14, an MP5A2 stock, an FAL handguard with the vent holes removed to resemble indentations, an M14 flash hider, and optionally the scope off a Steyr Scout image.

Chitoryu12 04-24-2013 01:08 PM

Too many images for the previous post.

http://i49.tinypic.com/20pvl6x.jpg
Remington 870 with the forend of a Benelli M3 and the stock of a Franchi PA8. The hardest part of this one was finding a stock that actually fit the curve of the receiver.

http://i48.tinypic.com/25qt6y0.jpg
A Grendel SRT with a Remington PSS 700 stock replacing everything from the grip and back.


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