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funkychinaman 04-11-2012 01:45 PM

Web series
 
Are web series' eligible for pages? I flipped through The Confession last night, and I'd like to do a page on it.

Pros: It's obviously professionally done, with Kiefer Sutherland and John Hurt, with what appears to be real guns. And it ran on Hulu and is available on Netflix, so I believe it should meet the professional distribution requirement.

Cons: Each episode is only 5-7 minutes long, so the entire ten episode run is only 63 minutes combined, less than a feature.

AdAstra2009 04-12-2012 01:07 AM

I feel this would be similar to the ban on short films.

funkychinaman 04-12-2012 01:34 AM

I was thinking the short film ban might cover that as well. But I think much of the reasoning behind the short film ban was to bar student films made on shoestring budgets, which this is clearly not.

I can't find anything to compare this to. I guess the closet thing would be Eagleheart, where each episode is 11-12 minutes, but it runs on Adult Swim.

Netflix strings all the episodes together seamlessly, so it feels more like a short feature.

I've got caps if anyone wants to review them.

funkychinaman 04-16-2012 05:12 PM

Anything?

For the record, on Kiefer Sutherland's IMDb page, this is listed as a TV series.

Excalibur 04-18-2012 07:03 PM

There was a Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil webseries as sort of prequels to their new games that came out and each had real actors but not sure if they were using real guns.

predator20 04-18-2012 07:18 PM

I was going to check it out on Netflix. Seems like it would be an exception to the rule. Most shorts are going to be low budget with airsoft and cgi muzzle flashes.

Excalibur 04-18-2012 07:25 PM

A lot of movies uses toys sometimes but we put those in pages because they are supposed to represent guns

funkychinaman 04-18-2012 07:33 PM

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I scrutinized the scenes where the guns were fired to see if they were actually firing or if they were just using CGI muzzle flashes. Sutherland's P99 actually looks like it's blank adapted, and there's at least one scene where it's definitely cycling, and others where it's obvious he's reacting to a real muzzle flash.

Excalibur 04-18-2012 07:41 PM

But would it really matter if it was a real gun or a prop? We would still put it on the page.

funkychinaman 04-18-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 34767)
But would it really matter if it was a real gun or a prop? We would still put it on the page.

Oh, absolutely. I'm just wondering if any of the admins had any objection to me making a page at all.

Like I said, it's a bit hard to classify. IMDb lists it as a TV series, but it feels more like a short feature that was just cut into ten segments. Unlike a more conventional series, with multiple writers and directors, there's just one writer and director.

MT2008 04-19-2012 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 34768)
Like I said, it's a bit hard to classify. IMDb lists it as a TV series, but it feels more like a short feature that was just cut into ten segments. Unlike a more conventional series, with multiple writers and directors, there's just one writer and director.

In this case, I would follow IMDB, which is what we tend to do, anyway.

Excalibur 04-19-2012 03:25 AM

So then if it is on IMDB, we could make a page out of it?

funkychinaman 04-19-2012 05:19 AM

Whenever I think I might be brushing up against the eligibility requirements like with this or Archer, I just want to run it past the admins first. I'd hate to set a bad precedent.

If there are no objections, I'll put it up tomorrow.

funkychinaman 04-19-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 34771)
So then if it is on IMDB, we could make a page out of it?

Anything that has at least one real firearm in it that isn't a documentary, a short film or a cartoon that is professionally distributed. (Did I miss anything?)

MoviePropMaster2008 04-22-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 34768)
Like I said, it's a bit hard to classify. IMDb lists it as a TV series, but it feels more like a short feature that was just cut into ten segments. Unlike a more conventional series, with multiple writers and directors, there's just one writer and director.

the problem we are going to run into here is that NEW MEDIA is changing the face of what we call Movies and what we call TV shows. I suspect that there will be more and more media created specifically for streaming onto Computers and mobile devices. The future is changing rapidly and media is being redefined all the time. IMDB is no longer the benchmark it used to be since a ton of student made shorts got onto the site (due to some clever tricks to fool the IMDB mods) and the fact that there are now tons of obscure 'film festivals' around the world, in which to qualify the title.

I would say do it. Make the page, but with a very clearly worded caveat that this is 'new media' i.e. web based content and that you (or whoever creates the page) put on a notation that this title was approved by the mods and that all new media must be run by the mods to see if it qualifies.

Web series unfortunately can be just like 'self distributed video features through Amazon". Once Amazon allowed ANYONE to distribute their own video movies for a fee, it changed our definition of 'professional channels of commerce'. :)

So far I like our standards of what we do or do not allow. It keeps the site relevant to people truly interested in film history, etc.

funkychinaman 04-23-2012 03:10 AM

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Confession,_The_%282011%29

Jcordell 04-25-2012 03:14 PM

What about the webisode that they made to accompany The Walking Dead? Rex Linn is the soon to be dead neighobr that provides the Mossberg 500 to the husband. Can we list that on his page under television? I didn't know what to do so I listed it on his discussion page. There are screencaps from the webisode on the Walking Dead page. God I hate the future. :mad:;)


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