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Excalibur 03-28-2012 05:28 PM

Call of Duty cited as the cause of shooting? BS
 
This is another reason why I hate the news.

http://www2.wjbf.com/news/2012/mar/2...e--ar-3492369/

The doctor they interviewed said "A game that is rated M for Mature, probably doesn't belong in the hands of a 12 year old"

You know what REALLY doesn't belong in the hands of a 12 year old? A semi-automatic...

"when the eldest of them picked up a semi-automatic that belonged to his parents"

Was it just laying on the kitchen table? Shit the parents that own the gun is irresponsible. What did they think will happen? You don't know what will happen, but you're pretty sure it'll make the papers

They didn't teach their kid any lessons on why it's bad and apparently the kid pulled the trigger several times before a round went off, so either the safety was on and he most likely discovered why it wasn't going bang or the kid really is dumb. And don't go "he's 12" my ass. I know 8 year olds that can take apart an AR-15 in less than 30 seconds and back.

Spartan198 03-28-2012 08:09 PM

And the article doesn't make even a single mention of where the parents were or what they were doing when this happened. I haven't any love for Call of Duty, but this is an obviously blatant attempt to use it as a scapegoat to disguise what's actually just irresponsible parenting. But of course no parent, no matter how negligent or irresponsible, can ever do wrong in the liberal media's eyes. Everyone is just perfect and the root cause of all evil and tragedy in this world is guns and video games. :rolleyes:

zackmann08 03-28-2012 10:56 PM

I usually dont like to respond to this sort of stuff and stick my neck out but I got to agree. As a guy who grew up in a VERY liberal household with politicians for parents, if you are blaming the video games, you're an idiot.

Is there evidence to suggest that violent video games have a negative effect on our youth, yes, there is. Do kids ages 8 - 14 belong playing games like Grand theft Auto and Call of Duty? In my mind, definitely not. But to say that THAT is the issue is to ignore the facts in front of your face. I'm with Excalibur... WTF WAS THIS KID DOING WITH A GUN?! Personally i think your a lousy parent if you are letting your 10 or 12 year old play Call of Duty but thats for each parent to decide on their own. Letting your 12 year old have access to a Semi-Automatic?! Now that is fucking stupid. Forget the video games, lock these parents up.

Again, as a liberal from a liberal family, it is idiots like this who make gun owners look bad. Many liberals look at this and say "see this is why we need better gun control". Wrong, what we need is to charge this idiotic father with negligent homicide.

Just my 2 cents.

S&Wshooter 03-28-2012 10:59 PM

I've always had access to guns and violent video games and I seem to have made it to adulthood without killing anyone, even though the media says I ought to have gone on a rampage by now

SPEMack618 03-28-2012 11:37 PM

I played GoldenEye '64 growing up and had access to plenty of firearms, including, but not limited it too, a Mini-14, a Romanian AK, a -1991A1, and a Mossberg 590. The only people I ever killed were the fellows with AKMs in the Sandbox.

AdAstra2009 03-29-2012 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 34551)
The doctor they interviewed said "A game that is rated M for Mature, probably doesn't belong in the hands of a 12 year old"

You know what REALLY doesn't belong in the hands of a 12 year old? A semi-automatic...

Though I also agree with the first statement.

Rockwolf66 03-29-2012 02:29 AM

I have no problem with kids having supervised use of firearms.

Example

That kid was shooting there all day. At one point he was shooting next to me. All day there was a range officer near him and not once did that kid violate any safty rules. Note that with the P90 his parent has control of the weapon.

As for not letting a kid play violent video games....With good parenting it really doesn't matter.

Excalibur 03-29-2012 02:42 AM

And when you teach your little girl how to take apart a gun, she becomes this girl


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irykjLjuKo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlod...K15QgcA0_76bM=

She was 11 in that vid and that was 2008. Imagine what she's like now.

AdAstra2009 03-29-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 34577)
I have no problem with kids having supervised use of firearms.

Example

That kid was shooting there all day. At one point he was shooting next to me. All day there was a range officer near him and not once did that kid violate any safty rules. Note that with the P90 his parent has control of the weapon.

Personally though I think it's irresponsible to let children fire fully automatic weapons. Those things can be hard to control if you don't know what your doing.

S&Wshooter 03-29-2012 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 34581)
Personally though I think it's irresponsible to let children fire fully automatic weapons. Those things can be hard to control if you don't know what your doing.

I let a young boy (At most 10-11 years old) shoot the last couple rounds I had for the AK74 I rented on my 18th birthday, and he handled firing on full auto like a champ

AdAstra2009 03-29-2012 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 34583)
I let a young boy (At most 10-11 years old) shoot the last couple rounds I had for the AK74 I rented on my 18th birthday, and he handled firing on full auto like a champ

That's fortunate.

Rockwolf66 03-29-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 34581)
Personally though I think it's irresponsible to let children fire fully automatic weapons. Those things can be hard to control if you don't know what your doing.

In this case it was the son of one of the vendors and it's not the kids first experiance with automatic weapons. Frankly the kid is really well trained for his age. I've watched the kid put 19 rounds through a Barret M99.

Rockwolf66 03-29-2012 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 34580)
And when you teach your little girl how to take apart a gun, she becomes this girl


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irykjLjuKo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlod...K15QgcA0_76bM=

She was 11 in that vid and that was 2008. Imagine what she's like now.

She becomes Morigan Sanders

Gunman5 06-02-2012 06:46 PM

Yes, movies, TV and games especially will always be cited as a negative influence on people who go ape$h!t in real life but yet while some of these various forms of entertainment might get gratuitous, it does get unsound if you put ALL the blame on the creators.

The parents should be supervising or at least making sure that their children even know what they're doing while playing the game. And if it's inappropriate for their age group then just make them wait. Just because their friends are playing it doesn't mean they have to just yet.

And if they're still just inmature at the 15 or 16 age minimum, then seek counseling, therapy or keep any dangerous firearm away from them. I just don't see how any of these parents can live with themselves, letting their child grow up in ignorance, hoping that the teachers at school will get that into their head.

They have to play a part and just because they're busy paying the bills and putting food on the table does not give them an excuse to not keep an eye on their young, loved ones (well, assuming they love them).

Evil Tim 06-13-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zackmann08 (Post 34559)
Is there evidence to suggest that violent video games have a negative effect on our youth, yes, there is.

Well, there's evidence that they have a negative effect, positive effect, make you more violent, make you less violent, increase and decrease your attention span, make you more and less sociable, increase and decrease your vocabulary and writing abilities, increase and decrease fine motor skills...

I think the balance of all research is they don't do anything.


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