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Excalibur 06-18-2011 04:26 AM

I got a shotgun
 
Alright everyone. New to my collection is a custom shotgun I got from a friend. It's a Mossberg 590. I'll ask him about what he's done with it but it's pretty sweet and he sold it to me much cheaper than it is worth. With the barrel, muzzle choke, side saddle, trigger, enlarged safety and front sight, it should be worth about 800. I got it for 500.

Photos will be posted her tomorrow

Yournamehere 06-18-2011 04:34 AM

Whoa, that seems like a lot of money for any 590. I need a list of all the accessories with their exact names to see why this thing is worth/costs so much.
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Excalibur 06-18-2011 07:40 PM

It's just a 5+1 shot for now. I'm going to added a stock and most likely change the muzzle break so I can attached a longer tube.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/P6260105.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/P6260104.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/P6260106.jpg

Excalibur 06-18-2011 07:41 PM

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/P6260107.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/P6260108.jpg

predator20 06-18-2011 09:06 PM

Nice, I would definitely go to a full stock.

Gunmaster45 06-19-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 30493)
Nice, I would definitely go to a full stock.

I'd put an M4-collapsing stock on it, and replace the Tommy-gun foregrip with a light-dedicated forend to get rid of that out-of-place light loaded into the side saddle.

Otherwise, beautiful gun. $800 sounds really expensive for a 590, even one that's so kitted out. I guess $500 is reasonable, but as YNH said, I'd add up the price of each mod and see if that adds up with the stock price accordingly.

Yournamehere 06-19-2011 06:55 AM

After watching Nutnfancy's review on the Blackhawk collapsible stock, I don't feel confident with it, nor did I beforehand. A collapsing stock on something as hard kicking as a 12 Gauge shotgun sounds like a bad idea, and for the Mossberg's safety placement, it's also counter-intuitive, as now the safety on the rear of the receiver is that much harder to reach with a lower grip and a stock in between the hand and the safety. I find that pistol grip stocks handle and feel better, but Mossberg has sort of dug its own grave with that particular battery of arms. A standard Mossberg semipistolgrip stock, I think, works best with all things considered.

Nutnfancy's review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41htjbudh4

predator20 06-19-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 30501)
After watching Nutnfancy's review on the Blackhawk collapsible stock, I don't feel confident with it, nor did I beforehand. A collapsing stock on something as hard kicking as a 12 Gauge shotgun sounds like a bad idea, and for the Mossberg's safety placement, it's also counter-intuitive, as now the safety on the rear of the receiver is that much harder to reach with a lower grip and a stock in between the hand and the safety. I find that pistol grip stocks handle and feel better, but Mossberg has sort of dug its own grave with that particular battery of arms. A standard Mossberg semipistolgrip stock, I think, works best with all things considered.

Nutnfancy's review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41htjbudh4

Sootch who's a Nutn fanboy likes it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swYg9...eature=related But it was given to him, so take it how you want to.

I would trust Safe Arms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz6h...eature=related

Whether it works or not, I think an M4 style stock looks fugly on anything unless it's an AR.

Excalibur 06-19-2011 01:49 PM

I do plan to get rid of the light or at least move it so I can mount it forward. When I turn it on, it's off center obviously.

And I like M4 style stocks on a shotgun. I've seen other reviews of the Blawkhawk recoil compensation type and they seem ok with it. So to each his own.

k9870 06-19-2011 01:53 PM

I hate the standard 6 position m4 style stock on everything...even m4s. A magpul or Vltor type has superior cheek weld and same function. but ive heard those blackhawks do suck, they just look cool i guess...

AdAstra2009 06-19-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 30498)
I'd put an M4-collapsing stock on it, and replace the Tommy-gun foregrip with a light-dedicated forend to get rid of that out-of-place light loaded into the side saddle.

You must have deep pockets.
They look cool but you could buy another shotgun for the price of one of those grips..

FIVETWOSEVEN 06-19-2011 05:12 PM

I thought about getting a M4 stock for my shotgun so I can use AR 15 sights and keep a proper cheek weld but decided to keep the wood stock. Thinking about selling it and getting a Kel Tec KSG when it finally comes out.

Yournamehere 06-20-2011 12:30 AM

Sootch likes everything pretty much and his reviews aren't as detailed as other people's sometimes, but I'm still one of his subscribers cause he seems like a good dude and his reviews do get me to look at new products (I got drunk on M12 holsters).

And I guess you can throw up the ever convenient "to each his own" flag, but for a Mossberg especially with the safety issue, or any 12 gauge hard kicking shotgun, I don't see a practical justification for placing one on if it has moving parts and the potential to break. I mean it's a shotgun stock, how can you mess up a shotgun stock?

Excalibur 06-20-2011 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FIVETWOSEVEN (Post 30511)
Thinking about selling it and getting a Kel Tec KSG when it finally comes out.

Too much can go wrong with that thing.

FIVETWOSEVEN 06-20-2011 04:46 AM

I'm not buying one right away, I'm gonna wait till all the kinks, if any, are worked out.

k9870 06-20-2011 01:09 PM

Its Kel tec, there will definitely be kinks, or the cop out for poor fitting with a "break-in period."

MT2008 06-20-2011 02:23 PM

First of all, belated congrats, Excal. I think you made a good choice. I love my own Mossy (even though I also haven't shot it in the two years that I've had it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 30508)
You must have deep pockets.
They look cool but you could buy another shotgun for the price of one of those grips..

Are they still as over-priced as they were 10 years ago? I remember trying to buy one for my airsoft MP5, before I wound up settling for a replica instead.

FIVETWOSEVEN 06-20-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Its Kel tec, there will definitely be kinks, or the cop out for poor fitting with a "break-in period."
I haven't heard anything like that about Kel Tec ever.

Yournamehere 06-20-2011 02:31 PM

I believe in the "break in period" idea, and so do a lot of gun companies for that matter. Kel-Tec products are a bit eh though, but at their price point you can't really complain. You could say the KSG is different in that it costs quite a bit, but at the same time, no other pump action shotgun on the American civilian market offers what it does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 30520)
Too much can go wrong with that thing.

Which is what I've been saying about the Blackhawk stock, at least next to a simple one piece stock.

MT2008 06-20-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 30507)
I hate the standard 6 position m4 style stock on everything...even m4s. A magpul or Vltor type has superior cheek weld and same function. but ive heard those blackhawks do suck, they just look cool i guess...

I don't think the LE stock is that bad or uncomfortable (my AR still has one, which I have yet to replace), though I admit that there are superior options available. The only thing I find annoying about putting M4 stocks on guns that aren't M4s is that most people who do that are trying too hard to make their weapons look "tacticool".

funkychinaman 06-20-2011 03:42 PM

In the old Mossberg vs Remington debates, one of the pro-Mossberg points was the location of the safety. But it's a bit out of the way if you have a pistol grip on, is it not?

Yournamehere 06-20-2011 03:54 PM

I already made that point, but I don't think he wants to acknowledge it. I think he's doing it solely for tacticoolness as Matt described, but in a way there's nothing tactical about it.

AdAstra2009 06-20-2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 30527)

Are they still as over-priced as they were 10 years ago? I remember trying to buy one for my airsoft MP5, before I wound up settling for a replica instead.

Dunno, but $315-$440 still sounds outrageous to me

http://www.surefire.com/Mossberg590500

Gunmaster45 06-20-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 30508)
You must have deep pockets.
They look cool but you could buy another shotgun for the price of one of those grips..

"Light-dedicated" is a term I use somewhat incorrectly, that would for me include something like a Mako tactical forend with a rail to accept a light, which runs for about $50.

Excalibur 06-20-2011 11:33 PM

The only reason why I want the Blackhawk one is the recoil compensation on it. It's not that bad. If I get a full stock, all I'd get is unmitigated recoil. Sure the Blackhawk stock won't get rid of all the recoil, but it'll help.

k9870 06-20-2011 11:55 PM

Do you know what will help more? A 20 doallar limbsaver or pachmayr recoil pad.

Yournamehere 06-21-2011 12:37 AM

Dunno if that will help more, but yeah a buttpad would be cheaper and probably more functional. It won't "reduce recoil" persay, but it will absorb some of the shock, and do it without a buncha springs and plastic that could possibly snap. If you were to get the standard Mossberg stock, you could utilize the safety efficiently still, and even with a buttpad you'd be well under the price for the Blackhawk, and that money could go toward ammo for shooting and perhaps some more buckshot for defense.

k9870 06-21-2011 01:21 AM

When i put on a limbsaver, difference was night and day, pleasant with limbsaver, annoying with the rock hard remington pad.

Yournamehere 06-21-2011 02:55 AM

The Remington stock pad is pretty stiff for rubber, and my shoulder did get a little stiff after pretty limited shooting, but it wasn't shoulder-breakingly bad. I've entertained the notion of buying one of their R3 recoil pads to see if its any better, but my shotgun shooting and customization has taken a back seat to saving up for more guns.

k9870 06-21-2011 03:03 AM

I decided to cut off cerberus guns now, they suck as a company, but my remington isn't going anywhere either. I got my marlin right before production switched. good thing is the former bushmaster people they laid off get to work at a cool new rifle company that should open next month, local rifles FTW:)


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