Modern Warfare 3
 

Modern Warfare 3 new info I just found.

http://kotaku.com/5801353/modern-war...ishu/gallery/1

Tactical 1887 and a Kel tec KSG wow

Looks like a modernized 1887 with ghost ring sight. And they are bringing back a full size MP5, which is good. ACR, and the Magpul FPG.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first time ANY Kel Tec product has ever been used in a video game.

Waaayy too much tacticool for my tastes.

I think it's a clone of the back sight of one of the other shotguns. They're probably going to do that thing they did in Blops where a ridiculous number of weapons had the same sights; I guess they do it to stop people bitching that this or that sight is easier / harder to use. My usual habit of checking fire selectors tells me almost everything seems to be set to the wrong mode, as usual for games.

Also, the SCAR's back sight is the right way around. :eek:

The mag on the M4 looks almost straight.

It's a 20-rounder, isn't it?

That's just stupid. Why would they put a 20 rounder in a modern day shooter.

Could just be the Black-Ops 30 round magazine, better know as the real life 20-rounder. Wouldn't want to give unfair balance and use that excessive 45 round magazine, better known as the real life 30-rounder. :rolleyes:

But that can't be right, we all know from Black that you can put 95 rounds in a 20 round magazine.

As an aside, how does this square with the usual rule against bootlegs? I know we didn't allow screencaps from the leaked build of Crysis 2; is the rule against taking images from a leaked copy yourself? I ask because I've got a couple of shots of STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl from the leaked alpha lying around my hard drive, include the cut minigun and a shot of a PKM on a monopod in Bar.

It looks even a bit too long to be 20 rounds

Hahaha, another CoD game?
Any bets on how long before Activision bleeds this series dry and drops it like they did with Guitar Hero?

One game a year isn't a bad pace. GH died because they put out FIVE games in one year once. Plus, Rock Band was better, so GH was more like the MoH series.

I wonder if the ksg will be nerfed to 4 rounds online.

I'm sort of ambivalent about it. I loved the first one, beat it in the space of an afternoon at the Fraternity house, but the second one, aside from the gun issues, I thought had such a sub-par story that I really would only care to play the third one just to see what happens to Foley and Rameriz.

I'm not starting a Modern Warfare 3 page on the main site with these images, if that's what you mean. I figured there'd be nothing wrong with linking to them here on the forum for us all to scrutinize IW for their every little mistake, but if the mods disagree, I can remove the link and this thread can be closed.

There already is one.

Indeed there is. Well, a "red" member called Temp89 made it, and I'm not him (my name on the main site is the same as it is here on the forum).

I've just gone through it and removed the "the following weapons" header, any references to anything being "in-game" or "returning" and the upcoming template, since that says the images are from "official trailers or sources" and we don't yet know if even one of these is actually an authentic game image. Granted, if it's a hoax it's a good one, but it won't help our credibility if people are pointed here saying "look, IMFDB says it's real" and it turns out not to be.

I didn't fully read your post and readded the "unreleased" template... I reverted my edit. Sorry about that. :o

Ok, I've added in a commented-out section to explain why it isn't there, that should help avoid people thinking we just forgot it.

Perhaps an "unconfirmed" template for situations like this would be something to consider?

Trouble is I'm not wholly convinced this article is in line with policy; at present we have no idea if these even are screenshots of the game. The way I've had to word it basically leaves the article saying "hey, here's some screenshots that may or may not be of Modern Warfare 3." It's not like Kotaku is known for being particularly picky with what they report, after all.

I know such an article (using purportedly leaked shots the authenticity of which is debatable) certainly wouldn't be allowed for a movie, and it doesn't exactly make for a great article when we're just IDing the guns in a rumour.

I raised that point (that there was no evidence any of it was legit) on the discussion page but it was brushed aside on the grounds that there wasn't any evidence to say it wasn't either.

That's a terrible argument since it's basically an admission that this could be someone's portfolio for all we know; the burden of proof always goes to the side asserting a positive, which in this case means it's his job to demonstrate there's some degree of authenticity to this. There's no proof there isn't an invisible unicorn in the room with you, either, but that doesn't mean you're trying to avoid pissing it off.

Also, much as I hardly arrived here with the most respectable username in the world, I don't think someone called Halorocka888 is really our go-to guy for policy advice.

I pretty much share the same view as Evil Tim. I don't think these leaked images should have been used as basis for the MW3 gun page, I only posted the link here so that we could peruse over them and discuss our thoughts on them.

Proper trailer has been released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJ...el_video_title

According to a USA Today article, the XM25 grenade launcher will be in the game, as will a 9-bang flashbang grenade (as in, 9 seperate explotions from each grenade)

Oh, that's going to be overused in multi-player a lot

I cant wait to used neuterd, nerfed weapons online:(

Seriously, people bitch about a noob tube then they make an eod suit that makes you near invinible. You can hold a grenade in your hand and watch it go off then just stroll around like it was nothing. i think dumping a flamethrower into somebody then having them shoot me with a smg since 4 seconds of fire bounced off them is more annoying than a m203.

Another game in which the U.S. military will be portrayed as bumbling an inept, without proper support, yet still visicious towards civillian, and requiring the help of the SAS to win the day.

Think I'll pass.

Huh? The u.s. military kicks ass in that and there usually isnt even civilians on maps (except no russian, the level was actually made to show how evil the bad guys were.) The military takes back dc, kills abunch of terrorists ad commies i the series. I dont htink there "bumblig and inept" or "vivious towards civilians."

See, I hated "No Russian" because at the end of the day, you're still playing an American on that mission, and I'd be willing to bet that you give a Ranger an M-4/203, he could take out five Russian terrorists, which the game doesn't let you do.

Further more, I always thought that we couldn't have saved D.C. until Price fired off the SS-18. (Which we won't even discuss how a SAS commando can by pass several permissive action links that require the approval of the Russkie National Command Authority)

Also, you mean to tell me that two SAS men, without much in the way in support can inflitrate a base defended by an entire PMC?

Carrying on merrily, you seriously expect me to believe that a LTG is working solely with PMCs?

Were Shepherd's guys PMCs? I always thought they were US military, albeit only loyal to him and his cause. It bothered the hell out of me.

Then o russian level was to try and infiltrate the cell and see their log term plans, not to do something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuVRE6BOJc

Would you kill 100 to save a million? The game was trying to say that. Also, my problem with o russian is it was poorly written (like an america shot point blak by his ow me starts a war but a ma with a military record doest even put o a mask ad has his face showing to cameras and it gets igored.)

MW2 had plot holes you could fly a 747 through, but things like the missile were to add suspese ad actio ad exitement, not realism. Shepard was a cool bad guy, honestly goig after the same genric bad guys time after time a new bad guy was more exiting. Besides, how may games do you fight in u.s. suburbs? It was kida cool.

I always thought the "Shadow Company" guys were PMCs, an omage to the Shadow Company bad guys from the first lethal weapon movie.

Wasn't Makarov the cell leader? Obviously, he wasn't hiding out like bin Laden was, so a shot to the back of his head would have probably saved everyone a lot of griev.

An homage to an action movie? In MW2? How clever, and original, and absolutely not done to death in that game.

I agree with the Makarov thing. You can uncover Makarov's plans, or you can just shoot him right then and there and make all those plans moot. Then again, they would've never found out about Shepard.

Most of what Shep does can be put down to his slightly weird obsession with writing himself into history as a hero. Hence why he never shuts up about it.

Isn't that kinda the definition of a PMC?

To me, fighting in New York is the epitome of stupid. To do so is to surrender any artilery, air support, and armor advantage. Artillery and aircraft are useless with the tall buildings and helecopters are vulnerable to anti-tank-rockets and machine guns, since the buildings get in the way and limit manuvability. APCs will be better than tanks, since the autocannon of an APC has a higher elevation than a tank's main gun, and any advantage the tank has in the armor department is negated (again) by anti-tank teams six stories up shooting at the thin top armor.

Then throw in, say, 12,000 cops (1/3 the NYPD), thousands of soldiers, and the ability for defenders to move undetected though the miles of subway tunnels, ellectric and phone corridors by whatever utilites works stay behind and the result will be worse than Stalingrad, all for a city of no real value. Yes, it has a port. By the time you can use it, all the streets will be rubble-filled and covered by snipers.

One last thing: How did the Russians whip up another invation force? The first one was EMP'd back to the Stone Age, left to deal with a whole bunch of angry Americans.