dont get some gunowner attitudes
 

Well, I browse certain forums. There is always discussions on "your favorite gun" or "guns you think are cool."

Then people show up who think they're cool and say stuff like "I dont have favorites there just tools to get the job done." Or "Guns arent cool, there simply to defend your life and your an idiot for thinking there cool."

Well, I for one see guns as having other uses, like, oh.........recreation. Yeah, i shoot them cause its fun. So I can say "I like gun x its more fun to shoot."

i just dont understand it.

Yes the "Guns are tools" crowd always has to chime in. Trying to make those of us who just like the damn things feel bad. Screw em.

My question is if they feel that way why are they posting on a gun forum?

They can act like experts there without having to drive to the gun counter.

My guns aren't tools (well, aside from the ones the Queen gives me). I don't use them for any practical purpose. I just like the damned things!

I have an idea! Make a super rugged handgun, and then make magazines for it with hammer heads on the bottom, and maybe a guide rod with a screwdriver coming out the front.

Then the argument gets way more interesting. :D

Sounds to me like those people have a guilt complex, and/or want to feel like Hollywood action stars. You know...think of those movies where the hero is some uber-tacticool soldier or mercenary, but secretly hates guns and violence, and dreams of some day retiring from the life so that he can live on a socialist-utopia commune eating organic food with the woman he loves, without seeing another gun for the rest of his life.

As sad as it sounds, there really are self-righteous people in real life who have that same retarded Hollywood mentality towards firearms. Those are the same assholes who will say stuff like "guns are just tools" and try to make other gun owners think there's something wrong with them if they just like to shoot or collect weapons.

Irresponsible gun owners are a bane on society, so it's understandable that responsible gun owners would adopt an attitude that distances themselves from the kind of morons that leave loaded handguns on the coffee table where their bipolar stepsons can just pick them up.

Playing devil's advocate here: I'm always being asked by NON GUN OWNERS "What is your favorite gun?" Since I don't want to say "I love them all for different reasons" I always point out that guns are tools (without disparaging them). Seriously, they are TOOLS, beautiful and cool TOOLS but tools none the less. Some of them are fine art! Some of them are UGLY but loved no less than a beautiful one. Some of them are mediocre looking but very reliable, etc. But they all serve a practical function which other things like jewelry or art does not.

I think that attitude comes more from guys who already have TONS of guns. They're just tired and somewhat cynical because of the overbearing energy that overly excited gun geeks get over stuff. ;) I count myself amongst them. I actually don't like it when someone asks me "So what is your favorite gun?" because I think it's an irrelevant question for someone like me who has no favorite and who likes many many different types for different reasons.

Now I don't act all mad or anything if anyone asks that, I just say either "I like them all" or the "It's a tool, whatever I need from the tool box, I like best at the time". It depends on the person asking. :D

Good point.
I LOVE my tools. :) Guns, sure they're okay tools. Drills? Ah man, corded or cordless I frikkin' love power drills. Hammers? Not so useful, but yeah they're okay.

I think hi point fanboys are lame too....If somebody says "its all i can afford." Sure, I get it. But dont say your hi point is better than a sig/xd/les baer whatever and that anyone who disagrees is a gun snob. Yeah, happens all the time. Seriously, know your guns limitations, i know my taurus is at a lower price point than a smith and is a nice revovler, especially at the price. I dont claim its better than a performance center gun

I have a Hi-point carbine, I like it, and all I'll say is A) it's fun to shoot, B) it's a good value. But better than other guns? No.

Dunno if I have a favorite gun, but if somebody asks me what types of guns I like for specific reasons, I can say I have favorites. If someone asks me what guns I like to shoot, I'll say my AR-15 and SIG 226. I have an AK that I like a lot, but not because I like to shoot it (I'd rather shoot the AR). I also have several other guns that I don't particularly like to shoot, such as my S&W 4506 and my Mossberg 500 Mariner. The latter is a weapon that I bought almost entirely for practical reasons (I decided that I needed a 12-gauge because it's more ideal for home defense than a rifle or pistol).

Too bad I can't just buy the 4506 from you. Then I could, when I legally can, use one as my car gun

Don't you have one already?

Haven't you seen training day? he needs 2:p

Yup. One would be a car gun so I don't have to bring it back and forth b/w house and car like my father does (and sometime he forgets it entirely for this reason)

Or fire one normal and one gangsta like denzel.

I'd have to drive all the way out to my land to do that, but it would be fun

You have personal shooting land? If im ever in texas were hanging out. Id probably own a dsa fal by then......

I have "I can do anything I fucking want to (that is legal)" land. We are probably going to build our own camp there, instead of borrowing a relative's

Thats awesome, Id love some of my own land for hunting someday. make a hunting cabin. Thats more a retirement dream.

It's always good to have a little place out in the woods. You can go out there and relax without people fucking with you and if the SHTF, you have somewhere to go

how accessible is it, can you drive right up or does it take some work?

Ah, I see. Personally, I would never want to leave a gun in my car at all.

It's better than accidentally leaving your gun at home and then getting killed because of it

Id put a cheap gun in there.

I could hide an Uzi in my sunroof if I wanted to.

Yeah, that does sound like a better idea than putting a gun that is pretty hard to find in there. Now I'm going to have to think of a cheap, dependable brand. Suggestions?

You hate ruger, so Id have to see now, what kind of gun you want in there, a small CC gun, big gun, what?

I don't like some of their semis. Ruger revolvers are awesome

The car gun is going to stay in the car, my carry gun being something different altogether. I'm looking for an auto, at least 9mm

Thing is id put a small gun in car, pocket pistol, so if you forget your carry at home you gotr something you can use. check this site for some good deals;

www.summitgunbroker.com

beretta cougar .40 315$ with night sights

I just carry the gun in a holster back and forth, I don't need to take it out except for comfort but I always put it right back, at home its usually with me in a holster.

If you live in an area where you're so afraid of getting killed that you need to carry a gun (and I'm not passing judgment; I have known people who do live in very dangerous areas and carry concealed), why would you accidentally leave your gun at all? It would seem analogous to forgetting to brush your teeth, or some other life habit that's essential to your daily health.

Going out on a limb here, but...do you drive a Subaru?

.Infiniti.

I have to go to places like Beaumont and the worse parts of Houston on a moment notice sometimes

Another Attitude:

"Caliber doesnt matter shot placement is, a hit with a .22 beats a miss with a .50" crowd. Yeah, shot placement is critical, and more important than caliber, but caliber also does matter. A hit to the chest with a .25 acp beats a 50 that misses, but a .45 to the chest beats a .25 to the chest. If you can make shots well with the bigger caliber than do it.

Also on that note...Self defense doesnt always mean you have to kill some one. A .25 will stop a person from doing what they are doing but the dude has a chance to survive and learn and grow as a human...a .45 is usually a end game. So there is also those gun owner attitudes that bigger is alway better no matter what.

If they aren't in the middle of an adrenaline rush or on drugs

If some tool is shooting up a mall, the faster I drop them the less chance he has to kill more innocent people. Not all defense is against a mugger or something, there are cases of active shooters. And I see the need for shot placement, Its just so many people act like its all that matters and it sees in their mind we should all carry .22 target psitols or something.

No gun will stop someone with a single shot reliably, one shot from a .25 to the central nervous system will stop someone, in their tracks, high or sober. This is the same with any gun.

Once read a story about a cop that shot someone high on drugs 6 times with a .41 magnum revolver and that didn't even stop him.

Shot placement > Caliber.