Bought a new 1894c Marlin
 

Ill post pics friday when i get back from hunting.

First impressions, i cycled it with snap caps and locks up tight, cycles smooth and trigger is good. Balance is sweet, fit and finish great.

Great thing is i can get a revovler when im 21 in same caliber

What caliber is it .357, 44?

.357. I can wait to shoot it, its raining here and it wont clear up for me to hit the range or hunt.:(

This rifle is excellent though, and the last run of new haven guns, unfortunately. Cerebus is transferring marlin and HR guns to a new plant, which is supposedly going to have lower quality. I love the feel and it will be a fun and inexpensive shooter, .38 and .357 are easy to buy at good prices.

I got my Marlin 1894CS (.357 Magnum) for my 16th birthday in 1984. It was brand new. It's still with me. Great little carbine. One of my favorites.And evidently they are now going to go up in value with the recent developments. Who knew?

Mine was about 550 with tax, which is about 17% when state and federal are added. Love it. Very well cut checkering in stock, nice looking wood, immaculate bluing, the balance and feel........I want to shoot it!

I know what my top choice will be if I ever decide to get a lever action...

Act soon, or look for used new haven guns if you shop in future. I ind marlins to be great, much better action and fit/finish than winchesters. The winchester 94 action has noticeable slop, the marlin doesn't.

I always see Marlins at gun shows, so I'll probably be able to find a used one (if I ever decide to get another lever action)

I saw some used ones but they didnt have checkered stocks and were not a much cheaper. They were about 500. I mean i know they hold value well but that for a used? Ill just buy new.

I find that online and in my area (maybe not yours), you can get Winchester made '94s for around 300 dollars, so when I get some spare scratch that isn't going toward another gun or gear, I'm going to buy one in .30 WCF just to have.

You don't really see them out here for some reason. I thingk the most common guns around these parts are surplus rifles, hunting guns and ARs with anything else being significantly harder to find

The 94 doesnt impres sme, the wood quality is poor, although they are a decent gun the marlin wipes the floor with it. I want to get a 686 p, and send to clark custom for some work (moon clip conversion, action job, chamfering) and then ill have aawesome carbine and wheelgun in same caliber.

I also want a sphinx 3000 pistol but that will be hard, them not having an importer and all.

I don't know of any quality differences, but I like having the name on the gun and the lower price. I'm also referring to older Winchesters and not current production ones, if they still make the 1894 at all. I might consider getting one in .357 to go with my Model 19, but it'd also be nice to have one in a genuine rifle caliber (.30 WCF) as well. Decisions, decisions.

686 doesn't need any extra work. Smoothest revolver besides the Model 19 that my Grandfather and father have ever used, and they are Colt guys

Im a trigger snob and moonclips are cool.

I love the trigger on my 686. It's just right for me

Was your 686 made before they changed the firing pin design I:E is the firing pin still attached to the hammer itself? Does it have a dash number?

I've fired both old and new Smiths, and an old Colt Trooper and the Colt had the lowest amount of pressure needed to actually pull the trigger, but the target trigger and hammer setup on my 19 is superior im my mind because the trigger has a smoother, less stagey pull, and clean breaks, albeit with a hair more weight for pull. The 686s I've handled, pre and post firing pin change, were not as good as either the Colt or my Smith, but the pre's were still pretty good for a stock trigger setup.

Firing pin isn't attached to the hammer. Just thyinking about it, I may just be used to shooting guns with heavy triggers, so k9870 probably will need the trigger job

When do you plan on trying it out?

when it stops friggin raining, maybe tomorrow.

I want as light and smooth as possible while having 100% primer ignition. I HATE DAO autos, on a wheelgun the utility the pistol itself gives would let me get over the DA pull, i just want it as good as possible. Who knows with some practice i may worm up to double action. Right now im single action guy, i dont like striker guns due to A. Most are glocks, and dont fit my hand B. Even models I like like XD have overtravel, lots of it. Springfield does offer to bring trigger to 4.5 pounds (my favorite) and put in an overtavel reduction, seems good. Im the guy who would modify every gun i get in some way though.

If he gets one factory new, it'd be a good idea, since the newer ones, in my experience, aren't as smooth as the old builds, but if he gets an older one, it shouldn't be necessary.

I think a 627 tuned may be sweet too, but i need to see if i like that frame size, 8 rounds is kick ass though.

Pics of my marlin when i hunted.

Very nice!

Since we are talking about triggers and all that, does anyone know what the DA trigger pull for the 4506 is? I can't find any info anywhere about it other than people stating that it is simply "heavy"

Probably varies but most da/sa guns have about 10lbs first pull, just buy a pull gauge for yours.

I have exactly $15. Seriously though, every time it is mentioned online, it is only listed as "heavy" which could mean anything from the guy just has weak hands or the trigger is close to that of a Nagant revolver. It's hard for me to guage it because I have pretty strong hands and most triggers feel light-medium to me

That is an absolutely beatiful gun though. I hope you nail a deer with it

i wish i could upload a better pic to do it justice.

If it's a later model, and anything like a later model 5906's trigger, it's trigger is probably relatively heavy compared to a Beretta, SIG, CZ patterned guns like the Jericho 941, or even an earlier generation Smith. You can't say whether or not a trigger is good/bad/light/heavy though unless you have something to measure it against, so you saying it's medium in pull weight without evidence or a comparison means pretty much nothing. I've handled, dry fired and fired most all of the modern wondernines, and the 3rd Gen Smiths I've gone through were probably the heaviest and worst of the double actions. It wasn't worst by a wide margin, and by no means was it "bad", but other patterned guns were certainly better in the trigger department with regard to weight, play, smoothness of pull and breaking. I certainly don't regret the 92SB/5906 trade with regard to their triggers, that's for sure.

Oh yeah, as far as weight numbers go, I've got no idea, I've looked for pound numbers for plenty of guns and they aren't listed anywhere, but numbers and trigger comparisons are both scales of measurement, so my input stands.

trigger pull
 

My 4505 in DA is lighter than my 92FS. I would say it's about the same weight pull as my P220. The P220 being more mushier though. The 92FS while heavier seems to be cleaner than the other two. The 4505 is kind of gritty. My 4505 was made in '91 (the only year). 92FS made in '92, P220 - '95.

I've been looking at maybe buying a trigger pull gauge, but other things first on the list.

Yeah, I'd like a pul gauge too, it'd be a nice thing to have.

The trigger on mine isn't gritty at all. From all the bad things I've heard about the trigger though, I'm starting to thing I just have a better than average trigger

Or, you haven't experienced other trigger systems with which to compare it, defaulting what you have as "good".

Ya'll act like I've only ever shot a handful of guns.

Best trigger I've felt is the one on my Winchester 52, worst was on my neighbor's Nagant m1895 clone

With regard to the Winchester 52, handguns and rifles are apples and oranges when it comes to trigger setups, so while it may be good, it's not relevant to the discussion. If I compared any of my handguns to, say, my friends Remington 700, they would all be considered complete crap.

The best trigger I've ever experienced on a handgun was with the Sig Hammerli Trailside. Best non rimfire is my father's Kimber Team Match 2

Have you handled many other non-rimfire, traditional double action pistols?