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Rockwolf66 09-09-2010 12:31 AM

Interesting news
 
I just recived a message from a friend of mine in the NFA community.

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Hey, "Rockwolf66". As I think you know, I'm a member of a private NFA owner/dealer e-mail list that's been around since it started as a USEnet group way back in the 80s. Anyhow, one of the Class-7 SOTs in the group just discovered imfdb.org and he can't stop raving about it. (FYI, this is Mark Serbu, owner/operator of Serbu Firearms in Tampa, FL and inventor of the "Serbu Super-Shorty"™.) He's kind of an egotistic asshole, but he produces pretty decent firearms. He was just tickled pink to find 15 separate movie references to his Super-Shorty 12 ga.

I just thought you'd like to know what kind of press you're getting!
Now this is interesting as I wasn't sure how the rest of the Firearms world views us. It would be nice to have a word with Mr. Serbu about what he feels about his firearms and their use in films. I could ask my friend to pass along a few questions if you would all like.

AdAstra2009 09-09-2010 01:02 AM

Good stuff....interesting to see other viewpoints.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-09-2010 01:13 AM

If he loves the site so much you probably shouldn't post about him being an asshole in the forum.

S&Wshooter 09-09-2010 01:38 AM

If only we could get some of those guys at H und K to read our site and realize that we don't suck and they shouldn't hate us

Rockwolf66 09-09-2010 03:08 AM

Not my words but unfortunatly Mr. Serbu does have a reputation as being such a person. Still it would be interesting to at least get our collective foot in the door. As I said it's just a thought. I know that Bunni is looking about doing reviews of film. Maybe we should add online interviews to the list of things we offer.


In addition to firearms, we as a site do deal in intelectual property rights and the politics that effect them. I know of someone who does deal in such things. I could ask her for an interview.

Excalibur 09-09-2010 03:35 AM

Interviewing with firearms manufacturers does sound interesting.

Rockwolf66 09-09-2010 09:00 PM

That's one reason I have been trying to gather support for an Official IMFDB youtube page. So we can do things like traditional film reviews, interviews and educational clips.

Right now I don't have the permission from Bunni, The technical knowledge, or that many contacts among the NFA community or International level Politicians.

S&Wshooter 09-09-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 18863)
That's one reason I have been trying to gather support for an Official IMFDB youtube page. So we can do things like traditional film reviews, interviews and educational clips.

Right now I don't have the permission from Bunni, The technical knowledge, or that many contacts among the NFA community or International level Politicians.

I could totally do that, but then I'd have to reveal my identity

Mazryonh 09-09-2010 09:39 PM

Good to know we're starting to be heard.

Swordfish941 09-09-2010 09:44 PM

Stephen King doesn't need to be accurate because he's Stephen King. :D:D:D:D

S&Wshooter 09-09-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordfish941 (Post 18869)
Stephen King doesn't need to be accurate because he's Stephen King. :D:D:D:D

Wrong thread

Zulu Two Six 09-09-2010 11:45 PM

lol
epic fail swordfish

Jcordell 09-10-2010 12:17 AM

Oh good. I was confused there for a moment about Stephen King. Thought maybe I had blacked out.

MoviePropMaster2008 09-10-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Checkman (Post 18885)
Oh good. I was confused there for a moment about Stephen King. Thought maybe I had blacked out.

ROTFLMAO! Swordfish been drinking and posting again! LOL!!!!:D

S&Wshooter 09-10-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 18887)
ROTFLMAO! Swordfish been drinking and posting again! LOL!!!!:D

Underage drinking? OH TEH NOES!!

Clutch 09-10-2010 03:19 AM

Say it with us now, Swordfish:

OOPS.

Swordfish941 09-10-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 18888)
Underage drinking? OH TEH NOES!!

I don't drink (unless you count drinking the Blood Of Christ as alcohol). I've only had a sip of beer once (my mom let me so I would stop asking what beer tasted like).

Gunmaster45 09-10-2010 04:14 AM

Did you guys actually fill up a whole page chastizing Swordfish941 for posting on the wrong thread? My god, serious thread drift problems...

Anyway, the topic was on the guy who invented the Serbu Shorty liking IMFDb. That's pretty cool, I'm revamping Terminator Salvation currently and that movie has the Shorty in it. Hopefully more gun makers will catch word of this site.

Swordfish941 09-10-2010 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 18906)
Did you guys actually fill up a whole page chastizing Swordfish941 for posting on the wrong thread? My god, serious thread drift problems...

Yeah, guys. Today is not the day i'm going to be roasted.

Mazryonh 09-10-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 18833)
It would be nice to have a word with Mr. Serbu about what he feels about his firearms and their use in films.

If you get a chance to interview him, sure. But why does he think that "15 separate references" to his Serbu Super Shorty is such an accolade? After all, the main wiki is mostly a catalogue of which firearms appear in which TV shows/movies/games, and which actors are holding which firearms for which piece of media. By no means are we endorsing his products by the amount of times they appear, or paying him for their appearances.

bunni 09-10-2010 05:45 PM

This is the direction I wanted to take the "movie reviewer" position I posted about... someone with experience and knowledge, either in military/leo or firearms to riff on the film and get into larger discussions about military hardware and firearms and interject a bit of history and maybe even some personal stories.

I did have some people get in touch who would be willing to do this... and I think interviews/articles with or by firearms manufacturers is a tremendous idea.

Many of the entertainment professionals I've met through the site like to keep VERY LOW profiles, in the background and anonymous. But military/leo/firearms folks seem to be more willing to give opinion and be interviewed - MPM would you agree with this? Rockwolf I like your initiative - I will look into securing the imfdb youtube channel - I'm sure some people would be willing to speak on camera/audio but not all.

How do we organize this guys? Any recommendations for the first people we should talk to - those friendly to imfdb?

MoviePropMaster2008 09-10-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazryonh (Post 18917)
If you get a chance to interview him, sure. But why does he think that "15 separate references" to his Serbu Super Shorty is such an accolade? After all, the main wiki is mostly a catalogue of which firearms appear in which TV shows/movies/games, and which actors are holding which firearms for which piece of media. By no means are we endorsing his products by the amount of times they appear, or paying him for their appearances.

For a relatively obscure firearm product, it shows quite a bit of visibility outside of the NFA collector world (which is quite small relatively speaking). The leviathans like Colt or Smith & Wesson could care less, but many manufacturers LOVE to have their weapons in films. It drives up demand in the market place.

MoviePropMaster2008 09-10-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bunni (Post 18920)
Many of the entertainment professionals I've met through the site like to keep VERY LOW profiles, in the background and anonymous. But military/leo/firearms folks seem to be more willing to give opinion and be interviewed -

It depends. When you have vindictive people who can secretly blacklist you or make sure you don't get jobs just because of something you said that was 'politically incorrect' in their eyes online somewhere, you tend to keep to yourself. I know of SOME military and LEOs who can't speak their mind ON THE RECORD because they have dick COs. The Military & LEO world is MUCH LARGER though.

bunni 09-10-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 18924)
It depends. When you have vindictive people who can secretly blacklist you or make sure you don't get jobs just because of something you said that was 'politically incorrect' in their eyes online somewhere, you tend to keep to yourself. I know of SOME military and LEOs who can't speak their mind ON THE RECORD because they have dick COs. The Military & LEO world is MUCH LARGER though.

Yes, I have had a few people contact me who would be willing to write under pen names.

Also, how do you get those cool avatars?

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-10-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bunni (Post 18925)
Also, how do you get those cool avatars?

Hilarious. :D

Jcordell 09-10-2010 10:52 PM

Well I tend to be conservative when it comes to speaking my mind about anything having to do with law enforcement. Sorry guys, but I need my job. Actually my family needs me to keep my job.
Glad to talk about more general law enforcement topics, but I stay away from the political stuff on the Internet.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-10-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Checkman (Post 18927)
My boss is a beautiful person and a terrific human being. That and he really does love BurtReynoldsMoustache.Like Romeo and Juliet those two are.

Say what?????

Rockwolf66 09-10-2010 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunni (Post 18920)
This is the direction I wanted to take the "movie reviewer" position I posted about... someone with experience and knowledge, either in military/leo or firearms to riff on the film and get into larger discussions about military hardware and firearms and interject a bit of history and maybe even some personal stories.

I did have some people get in touch who would be willing to do this... and I think interviews/articles with or by firearms manufacturers is a tremendous idea.

Many of the entertainment professionals I've met through the site like to keep VERY LOW profiles, in the background and anonymous. But military/leo/firearms folks seem to be more willing to give opinion and be interviewed - MPM would you agree with this? Rockwolf I like your initiative - I will look into securing the imfdb youtube channel - I'm sure some people would be willing to speak on camera/audio but not all.

How do we organize this guys? Any recommendations for the first people we should talk to - those friendly to imfdb?

I'll have to ask a couple people I know in the NFA community if any of the manufacturers who have products in film would like to at the very least have an online interview with us. Unfortunatly I haven't won the lotto yet so I can't do a traditional on camera interview.

bunni 09-11-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 18930)
I'll have to ask a couple people I know in the NFA community if any of the manufacturers who have products in film would like to at the very least have an online interview with us. Unfortunatly I haven't won the lotto yet so I can't do a traditional on camera interview.

We may be able to do interviews over skype, or written articles over email.

Mazryonh 09-13-2010 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunni (Post 18920)
This is the direction I wanted to take the "movie reviewer" position I posted about... someone with experience and knowledge, either in military/leo or firearms to riff on the film and get into larger discussions about military hardware and firearms and interject a bit of history and maybe even some personal stories.

I did have some people get in touch who would be willing to do this... and I think interviews/articles with or by firearms manufacturers is a tremendous idea.

I see, so you really were looking for professionals who would review the guns in movies then. I suppose the reviews for games will have to wait.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-13-2010 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mazryonh (Post 19036)
I see, so you really were looking for professionals who would review the guns in movies then. I suppose the reviews for games will have to wait.

That would probably not be very interesting. Video games tend to draw from a few well defined pools of particular weapons. (WW2 weapons, USA vs. terrorists weapons, modern tactical weapons, made up sci fi stuff, basic set ie. one pistol one machine gun one shotgun etc.) They also all tend to get the same things wrong about guns. It would be very repetitive.

Jcordell 09-13-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 18929)
Say what?????

Yeah very funny.

k9870 09-13-2010 03:25 PM

reviews on games should be two fold. Yes, there should be criticism of how the guns are portrayed, but the most important part is how fun the game is.


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