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Excalibur 09-06-2010 03:07 AM

Article pointing how not to hold a rifle
 
I recently came across an article about a Manga(Japanese comics) author became the butt of much ridicule for the imaginative firing stance one of her characters took up – she has apparently acquired an airsoft rifle in part to prove detractors wrong.

This is the article
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...shinjo-001.jpg

Also to point out another nitpick is that the drawing is shown that the rifle has 2 different set of scopes when it has nothing that indicates an optic other than iron sights.

The problem is that she bought the wrong Airsoft replica to prove her cause. Which is this PSG-1 when her character was holding what looks like an M4.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...shinjo-002.jpg

What she said about this rifle was:
"It’s so huge and heavy there’s no way I can fire it without putting it over my shoulder! Come on, I was right all along!”

“I can’t look through the scope and reach the trigger with my arm at the same time! What the hell. Are you saying a 150cm woman can’t become a sniper?” she complains.

My response is that this is a very specialized rifle and designed to be fired from a sniper position, prone, sitting or otherwise not like other combat stances. It needs a bipod to help steady the aim. It's a rifle, not a rocket launcher.

The main solution to saying because the stock is too uncomfortable or unlikely to be too long to accommodate short arms, would be to retract the stock. A PSG-1 style rifle could swap out stocks and the M4 her character held could just retract the stock shorter. If you fired an M4 style rifle without properly holding it, the recoil would smack the thing against your face since you'd be leaning close to the iron sight.


But it looks like in the end, she finally got the right way to hold a rifle...sorta. I see almost 2 fingers over the trigger

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...shinjo-004.jpg

ShootingJames 09-06-2010 03:12 AM

That's an adult? :eek:

I thought it was a child at first glance.

S&Wshooter 09-06-2010 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ShootingJames (Post 18599)
That's an adult? :eek:

I thought it was a child at first glance.

Ditto. Japanese people are quite a bit shorter than the average person of European descent

Excalibur 09-06-2010 05:01 AM

She's 37 guys. And yeah, I know. First sight of her and damn she's cute.

Markost 09-06-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 18610)
She's 37 guys. And yeah, I know. First sight of her and damn she's cute.

37? She looks like a lolita.

Mandolin1 09-06-2010 07:32 PM

She looks 12-16, IMHO. The skirt helps make yer look younger than she is. If we could see her face, we'd probably think she was a little older

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-06-2010 11:39 PM

Why does her face look like it's made of plastic?

S&Wshooter 09-06-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 18639)
Why does her face look like it's made of plastic?

She's a super-advanced manga authoring robot from Japan. Duh

Swordfish941 09-06-2010 11:47 PM

The Japanese are weird. They sell panties in vending machines (at least according to Mark Whitacre).

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-07-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Swordfish941 (Post 18643)
The Japanese are weird. They sell panties in vending machines (at least according to Mark Whitacre).

http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.asp

HashiriyaR32 09-07-2010 07:53 PM

Saw that on Sanakaku Complex over the weekend. This just makes me cringe and facepalm >_<. She really should have gotten one of her knowledgeable employees to model for her instead of trying to "guess" what the proper stance was.

S&Wshooter 09-07-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HashiriyaR32 (Post 18703)
Saw that on Sanakaku Complex over the weekend. This just makes me cringe and facepalm >_<. She really should have gotten one of her knowledgeable employees to model for her instead of trying to "guess" what the proper stance was.


That's where I saw it too. They're a very informative site, but by god there is so much "explicit content"

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-07-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 18707)
That's where I saw it too. They're a very informative site, but by god there is so much "explicit content"

I remember the first time I went to J-List. Children's toys, snack foods, dildos, all on the same page.

HashiriyaR32 09-07-2010 10:24 PM

I think we're going off topic here. What happened to the discussion about the fail itself?

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-07-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HashiriyaR32 (Post 18742)
I think we're going off topic here. What happened to the discussion about the fail itself?

I think the topic in general is "Japan is weird".

Excalibur 09-08-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 18744)
I think the topic in general is "Japan is weird".

I thin the topic here in general is not that Japan is weird. It's that they don't know jack about guns or how to shoot any.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 09-08-2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 18779)
I thin the topic here in general is not that Japan is weird. It's that they don't know jack about guns or how to shoot any.

Technically the topic is a middle aged woman who draws cartoons for a living and does not know how to hold a rifle, not every person from Japan.

Excalibur 09-08-2010 02:25 PM

To be fair, an average American who has never held a rifle, would most likely not know how to hold on properly. Someone who hasn't played any shooter game or if did, don't pay attention to how the weapon is held, etc.

This weird position caught my attention more, because I had a buddy who almost did put the stock over his shoulder for a split second before correcting himself.

S&Wshooter 09-08-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 18801)
This weird position caught my attention more, because I had a buddy who almost did put the stock over his shoulder for a split second before correcting himself.

Solution: Get new friends

Excalibur 09-08-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 18807)
Solution: Get new friends

Even better solution: Teach current friends the correct things

zzang1847 09-11-2010 03:17 AM

Just let them fire the rifle from that position for few times, and they will know what they have done.

As i always say, 1 experience is better than 100 times of explanation.
And watching people being pwned by a rifle never gets old :)


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