One more thought on MINIMUM standards for a new page
 

I've been seeing more movie pages created for films that aren't out yet, which isn't bad (look at the SUCKER PUNCH page, it has enough identified guns to merit a page), but seriously three new movie pages for unreleased films have an instance of just ONE gun? One of the pages has one gun and it's an UNKNOWN gun to boot.

The entire point is not to rush out to list EVERY instance where you see a gun in popular media. The point of IMFDB is to be a COMPLETE and thorough resource documenting the usage in films and other media.

I've said many times (and it's in the rules), NO PAGE is better than a lame page. Either the pages are complete or have enough 'content' to merit waiting until the DVD comes out, or away they go.

Trust me MPM I know how you feel. There is a reason that I don't really want to be an admin any time soon as I know I will simply go nuts on the deletion of lame and or incomplete pages. Just doublechecking links to movie pages is at times a Pain in the ass becase all it is is a list of guns and nothing else for the most part. Maybe I'm just tired of shitheads who won't do their own work and I'm stuck playing garbageman.

The purpose of imfdb is to be the first to create a page!
It's a race! Zoom zoom!

Sigh, no it is not. There are some pages that obviously have a lot of work put into them, but still have pitiful quality. Rainbow Six: Lockdown comes to mind.

The IMFDB Video Game Page Paradox: screencapping games is far easier than screencapping movies, yet it is a far less common practice.

Not really, you'd need special equipment to cap a console game. Anyone with a PC and a DVD drive can cap a movie. And short of actually snapping a digital photo of a screen, I don't think there's any way to cap a game on a DS or PSP. (Or does the PSP have a digital out?)

As long as people continue to equate achievement with quantity of pages, we'll keep seeing these crappy pages.

On PC titles all you have to do is hit Print Screen, yet pages for PC titles are just as lacking in photos as most other games.

Anything released on the DS isn't going to be detailed enough to get a page. The only PSP titles I've seen are GTA: LCS and GTA: VCS, which were both ported to the PS2.

Well, yeah, not capping a PC game IS just plain lazy. But like I said, console games are much harder. I skimped on a video capture kit and my test caps are terrible.

There's at least two Call of Duty DS games on the site. One has caps, but they're probably from the developer.

Trust me on this one, using printscreen to get game screencaps is ludicrously difficult. You have to alt tab to an image program and copy the screenprint every time.

Say you want a particular frame of an animation; with a film you just advance frame by frame until you get it. With a video game, you need to hammer on a real screen cap button(ie, output img file to a folder somewhere) and hope for the best.

Seriously that RS: Lockdown page is bugging me. I might have to download that from steam just to correct the page, but damn have I heard that game sucks.

No not really-just play it in Windows Media Player and play in windowed mode, I've screen-capped and completed over 45 films and every single one was done using print-screen.

How do you run games in Media Player?

You can't.

easy! you umm........ lol my bad

That AdAstra is one baaaad mother fu-

Shut yo mouth!

I'm just talking about AdAstra!

I was hoping you'd get that. XD

Like clockwork!

Okay. BACK to the topic at hand...

There are now a bunch of NEW pages, made by NOOBS which have only ONE gun in them. If the page has no GOOD screencaps, or the weapon is not highlighted nor pivotal to the movie, these pages SHOULD NOT be taking up server space.

What is up with Noobs desperate to list their particular favorite movies, even though those movies barely have a gun in them?

I've said it 100 times. Better to have 90 Complete and thorough pages than 9000 sparse or lame ones!

I'm going to start deleting lame pages that DO NOT Conform to the quality standards of IMFDB.

And I seriously suspect that the new members who are making these pages are youngsters. (no, not age discrimination, but adults are the official MINORITY of IMFDB users for a while now)

MPM,

Can I help? I've been looking all over the site and I'm looking for the "Flush" lever.

Please don't call me a Noob. I don't know how to screen cap.

I KNOW who you are. When I say 'noob' in this context, I am referring to the guys whom I've never heard of before. I see screen user names that are completely NEW to me, making crap pages.

I think they're just the silent majority. According to the demographic stats, which aren't 100% accurate, most of the viewers of imfdb are 18-34, and the 35-49 actually outnumber the 3-17 year olds.

Wow, now THAT surprises me (assuming it's really true).

Interesting. But they must NOT be active at all. 99% of the interaction I seem to have with other members seem to be with teenagers (anyone UNDER the age of 20).

I suppose it's like having 100,000 registered voters but only 500 actually go to the polls. I only count those who actually 'do stuff' ;)

Probably because people under the age of 20 are more likely to not know what they're doing.

YESSS .......I was waiting for the complete upheaval of the shit pages of IMFDB

speaking of pages that should not be taking up server space -I have been fighting to have a certain page deleted for a long time....this one.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Doom_series

That page was terrible.

Doom series page = the most epicly epic fail that failed ever so epicly.

When was demographic information ever collected?

yeah, seriously. I'm convinced that the vast majority of IMFDB users are age 12 or lower!!!:eek:

I see no particular reason why the Bruce Almighty page should stay either. There's only one gun in the whole movie and it's only shown for about 30 seconds (or less).

I think that's pushing it. If it has a gun, it counts.

Radical thought here, but do take some time to consider it:

Dump the video games and anime.

Personally, I thought of IMFDb as a great resource for people wondering "hey, I wonder what gun so and such used in that movie?" You don't have that problem in video games because video games TELL you what gun you're using. (There are rare exceptions, like Bioshock, but in those games, it hardly matters.) Why would you need a resource if the game already tells you? And games draw a lot of kids. And the run-up to video game releases draw a lot of discussion. Just look at the CoD: Black Ops discussion page. (I'm guilty of contributing to it, I admit it.) And BO doesn't come out until NOVEMBER.

As for the anime, in the end, it's just a drawing. A well detailed drawing, but still just a drawing.

My exact sentiments...

On another note- kill this page, it's a documentary

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Top_Gear

I think even if the film has just one gun used, as long as it's identifiable. It deserves a page. Granted in that film it's not used very much and not for very long.

I remember watching the remake "Last House on the Left". I think it had just one gun used, but it was used throughout the film. I think it was a two-tone Hi-Power. I need to rent that again and screencap it.

Dump the anime, yes. Video games, no. Just delete the video-game discusstion after the game comes out (and the COD: BO discussion now, it's just whining about "that not historically accurate, that's unrealistic, that's insert-irrelevant-wining-now) It's a video game people!!! I hope somebody makes a Civil war game with Vietnam War weapons, just to drive the complainers permanently mad. Anime? From my understanding, it's mostly a Japanese thing (not bad, but most of us are N. America/Europe...ohh wait, this is the WORLD WIDE WEB. Anyway, from my (very limited understanding) anime never dies and just keeps coming, with a potentiality infinite number of guns. On the other hand, disregard all of the above as the rant of a game-love American who really doesn't care about anime.

Anime isn't the problem, Anime doesn't draw immature 10-14 year call of duty babies. The videogame section draws kids here like flies to rotting meat and shit.

Even if you do delete the pre-release discussion, wasn't it mentioned that it's all cached and that there's no way to ever be rid of it?

At least with video games, you've got games people heard of. CoD is HUGE. And if MoH is any good, it'll give the franchise a kick in the pants. Like it or not, CoD probably got a lot of kids interested in guns. But as for anime, we're talking about a lot of obscure anime here. It's not like you'd ever come across a lot of these titles channel surfing or at the multiplex. (And the "mainstream titles" like Gundam, Macross or Dragonball Z wouldn't even qualify to be here.)

Old argument is old.