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Markost 07-26-2010 02:48 PM

Khyber Pass guns compilation
 
Well guys, post all the pictures of the "garage guns" (MPM dixit) you can find:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...PakBoltAK1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...PakBoltAK3.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...PE3nb/610x.jpg

Spartan198 07-26-2010 03:35 PM

I totally want that bolt action AK...

Nyles 07-26-2010 05:07 PM

I don't have any pictures, but when I was overseas one of our rifle companies confiscated a signle-shot break-action 12 gauge that had an AK folding stock and pistol grip for a mentally defective dwarf who was threatening them with it. I could not make that up.

We use to call it WADWAS. Weird Afghans Doing Weird Afghan Shit.

Rockwolf66 07-27-2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Markost (Post 16128)

Cool they are knocking off Armsel Stikers. Hopefully they blow up on the first shot when some Taliban goon fires it.

Seriously I'm not sure if my family got that far east but we have seen Serling SMGs that were so well copied that unless you had the real thing next to it and took a close look at the internals you wouldn't know that it was a reproduction and would blow up in your face after a bit.

Markost 07-27-2010 02:08 PM

Moar pics:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...passrifles.jpg


A Martin-Henry chopped & converted into a pistol:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w...erpass2-tm.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EoaekWnLvZ...arPakistan.JPG


This is creepy:
http://www.fototime.com/6C268041CD7E543/orig.jpg

Jcordell 07-27-2010 04:15 PM

Those are great. Wouldn't want to shoot them, but they are great.

The State of Idaho owns and operates a history museum. There is now a very impressive firearms museum that is an offshoot of the state history museum.

A few years ago the curator let me into the vault - which is where all the good stuff is. There were several Viet Cong manufactured firearms that were recovered from jungle/tunnel workshops by G.I.'s back in the 1960's. How they got to Boise, Idaho I don't know, but they are something to see.

Just like the ones in the photos.

Nyles 07-27-2010 06:27 PM

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Speaking on non-Khyber shop-made guns, I seriously considered buying this a few months back. I always figured I'd get around to picking it up but unfortunately the owner of the shop passed away so I may not get the chance. It's a Chinese-made copy of a Browning 1900 in 7.63mm Mauser, dating to about the 20s or 30s and probably used (well, carried anyways, I sure wouldn't shoot it!) in the fighting there between warlords, Nationalists, Communists and the Japanese at various points. Handmade + low-quality steel + unlocked breech gun + high-pressure cartrdge = total hand grenade, but I think it's really cool. Note the gibberish markings - when the intended users didn't even use the same alphabet I doubt they'd have noticed.

MT2008 07-28-2010 12:41 AM

Wow, they make Armsel Protectas? With actual plastic furniture? That's impressive. I can't imagine the ISAF forces would be too happy about meeting militiamen armed with those in a village.

I haven't seen too many pics of the guns made over in the tribal areas, but I've heard that those gunsmiths can duplicate almost anything. Apparently, some of them are now making copies of G3s and MP5s captured from the Pakistani forces. I can hear H&K bitching about that now... :D

BlackIce_GTS 07-29-2010 02:06 PM

EnglishRussia has a post on various captured Chechen guns. Quality ranges from highly questionable to frightening.

Excalibur 07-29-2010 06:14 PM

Some of those home made guns look awesome but you couldn't pay me to shoot them.

S&Wshooter 07-29-2010 10:51 PM

I wish I had a bunch of shitty Khyber Pass pistols so I could sell them to gangbangers. It'd be hard for those guy to commit crime when they only have 4 fingers and one eye :D

Markost 07-29-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 16239)
I wish I had a bunch of shitty Khyber Pass pistols so I could sell them to gangbangers. It'd be hard for those guy to commit crime when they only have 4 fingers and one eye :D

Holy sh#t, thatīs what happened in Kidulthood!!

S&Wshooter 07-29-2010 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Markost (Post 16241)
Holy sh#t, thatīs what happened in Kidulthood!!

That's metal as hell

AdAstra2009 07-31-2010 07:12 AM

I'm sure you've all seen that clip where they actually go to the Khyber pass and have an inside look on the caveman gun factory...but if not here>

The maker has a leftist perspective.....but whatever it's still a good clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGVianQJsmQ

Markost 08-02-2010 02:44 PM

A chechen rifle. Seriously, wtf?

http://englishrussia.com/images/chechen_weapons/14.jpg

MT2008 08-03-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Markost (Post 16347)

Is it supposed to be an anti-tank rifle? Wonder what it fires (or rather, would attempt to fire)?

Swordfish941 08-03-2010 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Markost (Post 16347)

No wonder the Chechens still haven't got their land back.

Mandolin1 08-04-2010 12:44 PM

It's a rip-off of the Russian PTRD anti-tank rifle!

Nyles 08-04-2010 02:21 PM

Not really, I have a PTRD and that doesn't have the same recoilling barrel system at all.

PersonOfInterest 08-04-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Markost (Post 16347)

The paint stain on the barrel is a nice touch.

BlackIce_GTS 08-08-2010 02:13 PM

That reasonably functional looking rifle bothers you more then the gripless shotgun or the wooden Beretta?
http://englishrussia.com/images/chechen_weapons/3.jpg
http://englishrussia.com/images/chechen_weapons/8.jpg
(well, that one probably doesn't fire. Probably.)

S&Wshooter 08-08-2010 05:12 PM

Those wacky Chechens and their DIY guns...

Swordfish941 08-08-2010 05:20 PM

Chechen guns = Epic fail.

ManiacallyChallenged 08-10-2010 06:02 AM

A friend of mine and I are working (sloooowly) on a somewhat atypical post apocalyptic game with makeshift guns.

I am totally ripping off those designs!

Spartan198 08-10-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ManiacallyChallenged (Post 16794)
A friend of mine and I are working (sloooowly) on a somewhat atypical post apocalyptic game with makeshift guns.

I am totally ripping off those designs!

It's not like they have copyrights on them... :p

ManiacallyChallenged 08-13-2010 05:17 AM

Well, at least not copyrights they copied from someone else.
Is copying a copied striker the same as copying the striker?

While we're at it how much wood would a woodchuck chuck?


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