Restrepo
 

Will one of the more talented folks on IMFDB please create a wiki page on Restrepo? Just saw it, very good movie. Thanks!

-Mr. Chuckles

It's not out on DVD yet....So no can do.

This is the second thread of this type today. Isn't there a rule against this sort of thing?

lol that's exactly what i was thinking POI
two people have REQUESTED pages be made
and i dont think they can do that either

Sorry about that, just thought I'd ask. I'll refrain from doing it next time.

I did notice, however, that there is a page on Predators, despite the fact that this is not yet out on DVD either.

People watch it in theaters and get promo images from the net. But the Predators page won't be complete until it's released on dvd and someone caps it.

You can still build a page for Restrepo, without any screencaps, just list the weapons used and a description. But it's preferred not to start a page unless it can be completed.

In addition, make sure that you have good descriptions. Not simple, one line "Used by Joe Blow" deals and not spoiler-filled ones - though if the last one can't be helped, then mark the page accordingly.

Hold up one second..."Restrepo" is the documentary version of the book "War" by Sebastian Junger. It's a great book (I happen to be reading it now), and I'm sure the film is just as good, but the problem is that documentaries are outside the scope of IMFDB. We cover weapons in fiction, not documentaries.

I believe that is against IMFDB regulations per the section regarding weak/lame pages.

No, it's not. "Lame" pages are those where the creator not only fails to provide screencaps, but also fails to follow format. Creating a page that is in proper format, but lacking screencaps, is acceptable, provided it's done well.

This is site is way too un-userfriendly. I really have no idea how to create a page in the proper formatting. There's no 'How to' or 'Introduction' page thatI can see anywhere, not even in the forum.

You make that easier to do and you'll get less requests of people asking other people to make pages for them. And people who make lame pages will have their pages corrected much quicker by people who know better.

Do not be rude. -MT2008

Yeah I didn't really know what I was doing when I first started. I started making small edits on pages. Once I figured out how to screencap. I contact another user, Gunmaster45. He uploaded the images for me and put them on the page. He told me to write the text, once I did that. I could upload images, put the page and all that good stuff.

There really does need to be a tutorial. But I'm not if any user wants to go through all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial

tada

The best way to start to make pages is to hit "Edit" on any page that's done in proper formatting (and we do describe what "proper formatting" constitutes in the Rules section), and examine the code. That's how I learned, at least. Also, if you need help, you can always ask for it on here.

Anyway, requesting pages is basically demanding that other people do the work for you. It's one thing to ask for help, but insisting other people take on the burden is not reasonable to ask.

There are many others who have or had this problem, I use to be one of them.

Also Manny.
Don't follow POI advice to just start clicking around.

Good deal.

I breezed through it, is there anything about uploading images and putting them on pages? That use to be my main problem. Editing text ain't shit.

PersonOfInterest, stop being such an asshole.

That seems to be impossible

I learned exactly the same way. If you want to start right away on making new pages, take a look at some of the featured movies for an example of what is considered good/proper formatting, such as http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Saving_Private_Ryan. Of course, you should also read http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Rules...and_Principles to see what standards are expected at this site in particular.

I would create a page for Restrepo myself, but the problem is that I can't really identify most of the weapons used in it. And yes, even though it is a documentary, I'd like to be able to identify the firearms I saw in the film. This is what I use IMFDB for: to bolster my knowledge of firearms and to be able to identify them.

I didn't mean to be unreasonable and "demand" someone make a page; I just thought I'd get a little help from others more knowledgeable about firearms than me. With time, maybe I'll be able to contribute to IMFDB on my own.

Since it is a documentary and the site doesn't allow those, would it be fair to post screencaps of the guns in the movie on this forum so you can still expand your knowledge without breaking the rules? Still looking for it btw.

I can tell you from reading the book that most of the weapons are standard U.S. Army issue stuff that you can identify by going to Wikipedia: M4 carbines, M249 SAWs, the M240, and the Browning M2HB .50-caliber.

Thanks MT2008. I think the M240 was where I got hung up. I saw it and thought to myself, "Wait, that's not an M60..."

Also, I was surprised at the beat-up look of some of the firearms in Restrepo. I know these guys were deployed in that valley for 15 months and all, but damn. I wonder if there is any info or a book or something on the longevity of equipment used by Coalition troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yeah, O'Byrne's squad carried the platoon's M240.

Haven't seen the documentary yet, but I remember there was a comment about that in the book somewhere. A lot of the grit on the weapons came from dust thrown up by RPGs and mortars narrowly missing them. In long firefights, it's easy for the weapons to get lots of grit all over their exteriors that doesn't come off easily.

Then shouldn't the Mail Call and Future Weapons articles be deleted?

Technically, yes. But they were also made before we decided that documentaries were not permissible and cracked down on them. We were in the awkward position of deciding whether pages that had taken lots of work to finish (i.e. both of those) should be deleted given the hard work that went into them. So those two have endured only due to our indecisiveness on the matter.

But any others, we shoot 'em down at takeoff.

I can't speak for Iraq but the talcum dust in Afghanistan will definately fuck them up. I carried my Browning in an open holster while I was over there and it was definately not in the same condition when I turned it in as it was when I got it! I know our LAV feet has taken quite a beating over the last 8 years.

What are "LAV feet"? :confused:

Nyles probably meant "LAV fleet".

Sorry to revive an old topic, but did anyone see this documentary when it aired on NatGeo? All I can say is, Wow. I'll never be able to watch "The Hurt Locker" or "Generation Kill" the same way again. I highly recommend.

I just watched it on Netflix. Even though it's a documentary, I think it would be worth a page. (But that would end up being a slippery slope) They showed a close up of a Knight's Armament M110, it was cool to see something a little different.

They didn't show many enemy weapons. I did see a TT-33 and some RPGs.

i just watched it an hour ago.
it was really good, shows you what it's really like. i highly recommend it