Photograph Effort Thread
 

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Ak_54.jpg

This picture pisses me off. It's the default photo used for original AK-47 entries, but it looks like absolute garbage. It's too orange, it's taken from a weird angle which makes the stock look tiny, and it's very "shadowy".

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image...TechLegend.jpg

This one is much nicer looking, but it just doesn't feel right having the default AK-47 photo be of an American made example.

Also I've noticed that alot of photos are captioned as "Firearm - Caliber" or something similar. To me, this seems unnecessary. Most of the photos of standard, unmodified firearms don't need any further explanation of what they are.

Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?

This thread is for discussing IMFDB photograph policies.

For someone who know guns, that's not an issue. But for people who aren't, it's necessary.

If you don't know about guns then what do you care? This isn't a firearm encyclopedia, thats what world.guns.ru and wikipedia are for. If the individual firearm pages have a bunch of information, that makes sense. My point is it's not necessary to caption every picture of an AK-47 in the movie pages to let us know that it is A: an AK-47 (as already stated in the section title AND the normal page text) and B: chambered in 7.62x39mm (somebody who doesn't know guns isn't even going to know what "7.62x39mm" means, there's no additional information for context, it's just a string of numbers and letters).

No I don't really care, but one of the purposes of this site is to educate. Also I own guns and know a little bit about them. A lot I learned from this site.

Also what about the Type 84? If it doesn't have a mag I can't tell that it's chambered in 5.56mm. You get me?

It's still nice to have a caption for it, whether people know what it is or not. It gives the picture a little more personality. If you go to a museum and see famous paintings, there will be a tag somewhere that says what it is, who painted it, and maybe some info about it. We're doing the same thing here. We're not an encyclopedia, but we still provide rare and interesting information on guns if it relates to films, which the AK obviously does.

As for the picture in question, I don't really like it either. It's a leftover image, no doubt ripped from Google, from before the page got filled with MPM2008s images. I don't think anyone would care if it was deleted, we've got other images that do what it does and look better. Captions should definitely stay, though.

Another thought: Why are 12 guage shotguns the only guns with an ID guide on the site? It would be useful to have them for other types of guns as well, particularly revolvers.

Revolvers have a lot more differences between the makes/versions. Shotguns are pretty generic looking and have less differences, so the few that are there need to be pointed out. It's a neat idea, but I can think of a lot more revolver makes and a lot of differences between them all, and doing a chart for them would be difficult.

Also about ID guides for other guns. Just effort. If no one wants to do it, then there won't be an ID page for other guns.

A history of M16 page was made and it was very informative, but if no one wants to do one on MP5s or AKs, then there won't be any.

Glad to see that you're volunteering for the effort! :D So when are you going to make the revolver page?

For the record, I did the shotgun recognition guide and I STILL have to add other models to it. But I don't have the time.

Revolvers bewilder me. I have no idea how you people can tell the difference between S&W and Ruger, let alone individual models. :confused:

I can pick out Colt Pythons, that's it.

if you dont like it fix it or shut up.
stop bitching to us about stuff that you're too lazy to do.
we dont take shit well

This is a discussion forum for discussing things. I'm not bitching, I'm bringing up a topic. Chill dude.

I can easily find a decent AK photo, I just don't want to infringe anyone's copyright. And if I go around deleting photo captions, somebody is probably going to revert them and try to get me banned. It's helpful to talk about things beforehand.

Agreed, but you are being very confrontational with your postings. Perhaps that isn't your intent, but that's how you are coming on. Now you can just say "that's your problem" and drive on (business as usual), but I get the impression you're heading for a wall and eventually others will stop paying attention to you. And some of your ideas aren't bad I might add.

Just a bit of friendly advice.

Sorry but that AK photo predates imfdb and I've always always always hated it. I get riled up by odd things.

Okay. See you around.

I'm not the only one who dislikes it:confused:

Probably. We really just don't give a damn

Not really, but original Soviet guns are really hard to get a hold of, in order to be truly authentic. I've worked very hard getting the AK variants that I already have. Here's an idea. Let's say .... I quit taking pics of guns for IMFDB, and hand the job off to PersonOfInterest. :D

I'm fine with the pic. At least it's a real firearm and not an airsoft clone, like numerous pics uploaded to the site are.

Airsoft pics were usually place holders until the site could get good replacements. You would not believe how many airsoft pics were on this site before I starting taking gun photos for IMFDB. But I wonder how many are numerous? We've been pretty good about replacing most of the Airsoft pics. There are a few but are you still seeing a lot?

I regret to inform you that I reside within the People's Republic of California :(

HAHAHAHAHAHA! How are ya'll's retarded guns laws working out?

hey I'm trapped in the State of Komiefornia and I can't get out of here perminantly yet. Thankfully I have various well armed friends in other places who have introduced me to their "toys".

Uh, I'm in the retarded People's republic too. And don't make the mistake of blaming us gunowners for the tyranny of the left wingers. That's more insulting than calling me a liberal. ;)

So? So do I. Get to it! :D

I could not possibly live somewhere like California. I'd either say "fuck it" and move or snap and assassinate a politician (and subsequently being killed by the 5-0 or going to jail for life)

I see. 16? Ah yes. I see it now.... :D

I lived in New York for several years back in the 90's. By the end of my time there I thought the lefty politics were going to drive me crazy. Moving back home to Idaho saved my sanity.Now the folks I work with consider me to be a liberal. They have no idea what a true liberal is like.:rolleyes:

This M4 on the Over There page is an ICS airsoft.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Icsm4ris2006.jpg

And this Sheriff, Co. 1911 used on the MGS4 page can go since someone uploaded a picture of a 1911 that more closely resembles Big Boss'.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Snake_.45-2.JPG

Those two are the only ones I can think of right off the top of my head, but I think there were a couple of others that I'll have to relocate.

But what I meant by "numerous pics uploaded to the site" is situations like the incident with MW2 a while back when anon users kept changing out the pics of real M4s and MP5Ks with ones of airsoft clones merely because they were equipped with the specific rail systems used on them in the game.

Well that Airsoft M4 is certainly a beautiful pic. And I've been meaning to take out the M4s and try to change around the accessories so that we have at least good representations of the various models. That M4 though looks too impossibly 'clean' LOL. Again, more on my list of things to do.

The Custom M1911 is tough. If it's a custom job (and moreso if it is not represented in the real world) then it's harder to get a shot of a real gun. We have no choice in the matter.

Right now, if there is NO real world counterpart or it's a weird one off with a rail system, etc. then I don't have a problem since it's not replacing a real gun pic. Besides, who in the world would replace a real gun pic with an airsoft (in identical configuration?) :confused: But replacing airsoft pics is on the list of things to do. One priority is getting shots which we don't have at all or replacing really terrible low quality pics. Those actually make the site look ugly. :eek: