Any metal heads out there?
 

I'm just curious to se how many of ya'll listen to metal. I particularly like

Judas Priest
Sabaton
Rammstein
Crowbar
Soilwork


What about you?

One of my friends is big into metal, and he makes me some mixed CDs we throw in my car cd player to play on the way to the gym. Metal pumps you up before workouts.

I listened to Rammstein for a while. And I still like Ministry and KMFDM (which are more industrial-metal-techno, not straight metal).

Other than that, I listen to metal sometimes, but wouldn't call myself a "metal head".

That sums it up for me, I listen to it before lifts, runs, while playing football with friends or something, but i dont play metal while i hang around the house or anything.

In Flames
Mudvayne

That's about it.

It's pretty much all I listen too, except when I drive my father's truck and switch the radio on to music from the 50's-60's. The only non metal music I keep on my Zune is The Clash and Sektor Gaza, which are both Punk

Iron Maiden, Manowar, Alestorm, Opeth...

The most I'd list to is AC/DC

i listen to a little rammstein, but im not a metal head. mostly just pump-up music.

other than that, metal: yuck

I listen industrial metal and others most of the time, but generally these:
-Rammstein
-Ruoska
-Turmion Kätilöt
-TL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkgQTfyHD0)
-Soad (including SoB and Serj Tankian)

I don't even find that metal is that good for working out, especially the 80s hair metal. The entire reason I have my iPod at the gym is because 90% of the time, they've got some 80s rock station blaring AC/DC or Poison from the speakers, and that's not what gets me pumped up. I mostly listen to pop, hip-hop, and electronic music while lifting - mostly because that's the kind of stuff you hear at clubs, so it reminds me why I'm even at the gym in the first place. :D

Also, when I think of hair metal fans, I always think of 40-something ex-jocks who have an unhealthy obsession with their high school football days, and teenagers who are ex-jocks in the making. Which is not me, to the say the least (or my generation, for that matter). Maybe I wouldn't mind it so much if those dudes and their music didn't monopolize every gym where I've ever been a member.

That being said, I do have a special place in my heart for "Right Now" by Van Halen. It's one of those songs that motivates me to do almost anything, and which I still listen to on a regular basis.

MT, Hair metal isn't metal (neither is ACDC, just so you know)

AC/DC is proto-metal, at least, even though they were around in the 70s.

As for hair metal, it's not metal? Come on. It may be bad metal, but that doesn't mean it ceases to be metal.

Hair metal is a sub-genre of metal, and while it probably isn't what S&W is talking about, it's still a form of metal. AC/DC is technically not metal but was a significant influence.

Anyhow, metal music, to me, is kind of a loud clusterfuck of vocals, typically with irrelevant subject matter and a lot of distortion, and instruments being pushed to their sound limits, all of which is usually as loud as it can possibly be. I personally don't like it, as I like lyrical content and I generally just don't like the sound, at least not more than hip-hop bass or simple acoustic/electric guitar. Metal is more complicated where I want it to be simpler, and vice versa. I got friends that like it/know it, but it doesn't trip my trigger, at least not like other genres.

I've always thought AC/DC can be considered somewhat metal. All Music Guide lists them within Heavy Metal (though it also says they can be considered Hard Rock, Arena Rock, etc.)

Come on, there's plenty of hip-hop that is utterly devoid of any meaningful lyrical content. I listened to hip-hop long enough to appreciate that the "heads" love to rip on all of the "gangsta" and "pop"-rappers who don't "keep it real" or whatever.

As for the music, it's easy to attack hip-hop for being totally uncomplicated, since it is based on sampling and sequencing rather than playing an instrument (except for The Roots and a few others).

That's more of a description of modern, radio-played hip-hop, and I don't listen to that. As for your second statement, I'm not sure if you're still disagreeing with me or just pointing something out, but that parallels my point. The music is a mix of previously made sounds and (hopefully, if not most of the time) an original beat, and most of the time, that's enough for the song to work, granted the rapper is talented.

the metal i lift to is less vocals and more about the beat

I'd call it "recognizing a nuance". My point is that both hip-hop and metal have produced a lot of crap, but that it's just as easy to criticize hip-hop as metal.

Also, don't kid yourself...90% of what you hear in hip-hop beats is just straight sampled. Even hip-hop songs that do use live instrumentation in the beat are borrowing somebody's melody or notes. There is very little original music in hip-hop. That's not my opinion, either; it's pretty much a fact. Any time you hear a hip-hop song where you think the beat is original, just go to http://the-breaks.com/ and you'll probably find that it's sampled from George Clinton or Zapp or whoever else.

I'm not sure how this became a debate over which genre is more "original", but there isn't anything wrong with sampling nor does it make the production of the music unoriginal or uncomplicated.

Most rap songs sample, but it doesn't mean their music or songs are second for second, sound for sound ripped from something that already exists. I checked the samples on that site with a few songs I have, and the samples are usually just a short part of the song or used in the intro or end, and at the very worst, all they do is take a portion of the song and loop it, while still producing a beat of their own to go with or over it. There's a fine line between sampling and straight dubbing or copying someone elses work, and it shouldn't be seen as a lack of creativity on the song producers part if he samples, not copies, but samples.

That being said, I don't know if 90 percent is an accurate figure, unless we're talking about the amount of songs that just sample rather than the amount of songs which are full on 100 percent composed of nothing but other people's work i:e covers and stuff like that. Besides, the prevalence of sampling is just what hip hop music is and has been for the last 30-40 years, as it's more or less an invention of DJs toying around with their machines and records and in turn producing a new music genre. It's kind of like making a collage with yours and others artwork, there's some obvious influence and media borrowed from places, but it still belonga to the creator. It is what it is, and I wouldn't hold it against rap/hip-hop as you do.

Even with that, you still further strengthen my original point that I prefer hip-hop because it's a bit simpler with regard to music and puts more emphasis on lyrics (though the quality of the subject matter vaires from artist to artist, but ultimately you can understand what they are saying at the very least). The music and beat are mostly a vehicle for the rapper, but can still sound dope on it's own too, whereas something like metal stress the instruments and not so much the lyrical content, which really doesn't do anything for me as it manifests an inverse of my priorities for music, and generally I just don't like the sound of the music as a standalone, so it really does nothing for me, as least when I'm not in the tough thrashy mood where all I want to do is listen to something loud and powerful, but I can find a rap song that will serve that purpose, as well as others for more mellow moods. I'm sure you guys like it for whatever reason, but most metal just doesn't meet my criteria for what I consider listenable music.

How ironic- MT and YNH are derailing my thread :p

Even though you guys didn't ask for it, here's some REAL metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BzLvFawauA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lDroIKpMtI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDamPXLxYd0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBcu8YWs7uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=457-Y8GYVtg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_eGXPzSzAg

There's a major difference between doing it in "Off Topic", and doing it AFTER the person's question has been answered. You wanted to know who likes metal, right? Now you do.

You have a tendency to hijack topics where a person is asking a question about a gun, or a movie, and you don't even attempt to answer their question. That's just downright inconsiderate.

I can't believe so few of us are metalheads. Metal and guns go together like PB&J

The Beats is not 100% complete, either. But I'm telling you, every sound you hear in a hip-hop song came from another song first. The baseline, the drum loop, the synth melodies, anything else. It's either sampled, or it's being played by a keyboardist so that they don't have to apply for a license. But there are almost no original sounds in hip-hop. The entire point of hip-hop is to take existing songs, strip them down, and revive them with new energy.

My point is not to tell you that you're wrong for enjoying hip-hop. I like some of it, too. But strictly speaking, hip-hop is just as easy to criticize as metal. So I'm finding myself in the awkward position of defending another genre that I'm not even big into.

I wouldn't say that. Come to think of it, hip-hop probably goes better. I mean, what other genre do you hear them actually referring to guns by name?

On the other hand, both metal and hip-hop are full of socialist traitors.

Hip-hop maybe, but not Metal. I can confidantly say that they are opposed to any and all types of Gov't, but they are not socialists. In fact if you were to call this guy: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/...dc07c07730.jpg a socialist, he might just kill you

metal head. no

in a quote of one of my favorite movies:
''how do you feel johnny?''
''LIKE A MEAN MOTHER FUCKER SIR''

I enjoy some metal, but I don't characterize myself as a metalhead, the majority of the music I listen to isn't metal.

Bands:

Megadeth
Metallica
Iron Maiden
Rammstein (big favourite)
Mastodon
Isis (post-metal)
Killing Joke's later work (they transitioned from punk to industrial metal)
Airut (little known Finnish metal band)
Kotiteollisuus (ditto)

I too dig Rammstein! I like a bunch of the songs from xXx specifically/especially the Rammstein song at the beginning, Moby's, and Orbital's.

As far as other metal (harder stuff) goes, I went to a Dragonforce concert and fell in love. Did the same with a band called Turisas.

VNV is a favorite of mine too, but I am not sure exactly what genre they belong to.

I would have to say Trance is the main music of choice for me however.

Being opposed to government doesn't make someone "conservative" or "libertarian". Everybody in art claims they're "against the system", in order to sound as anti-conformist as possible. Also, remember that communism is (in theory) supposed to be a form of anarchy. Usually, whenever rock bands call themselves "anarchists", they're not thinking of free-market, individualist anarchy (the libertarian type). They're thinking of anarchy in the Marxist/anarcho-syndicalist sense.

Also, Rammstein's politics are very leftist (in the songs where they do get political); listen to "Links 2, 3, 4", for example.

I started listening this band a days ago when a friend went to see them at a concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0mQv...eature=related

And, of course, some metal in spanish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTboDWM8BYc

Jesus Christ! What the hell was that?

Now, for something completely different

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzpWK...eature=related

Try some of this on for size...

Metropolis - Nemesis (VNV Nation)

Assemblage 23 - Binary

At the minimum, try the first!

Do the Ramones count as heavy metal?

No, they are Diet punk. Sort of punk, but not really

What about the Stones?

That is what you get when you mix Rammstein with black metal...

Nopes. RS is more R&R, blues rock, blues, hard rock, psychedelic rock, pop, pop rock and dance rock :confused: (according to wikipedia).

Try some Judas Priest or some Megadeth