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Milkovich 01-21-2011 01:35 PM

A "Did you Know...?" section
 
I was thinking that a little box on the front page displaying random facts or interesting notes would be neat. The following would be a few things that people might find interesting:

... that the gold plated [[Taurus PT92]] with pearl grips and a black barrel used on ''[[Smokin' Aces 2: Assassins' Ball]]'' also saw use in ''[[Driven to Kill]]''?

... that a lot of television series substitute the [[M249]] for visually modified [[Daewoo K3]] machine guns?

... that there are barely any discernible differences between the outward appearance of the [[Beretta_M9#Beretta_92F.2FFS|Beretta 92F]] and [[Beretta_M9#Beretta_92F.2FFS|Beretta 92FS]]?

... that most firearms used on ''[[A-Team, The|The A-Team]]'' are actually semi-automatic only? The actors were told to pull the triggers rapidly and in conjunction with the sound and special effects the illusion of automatic fire was achieved.

... that a lot of the [[Heckler_%26_Koch_PSG1#Heckler_.26_Koch_SR9_series_ of_Sniper_Rifles|Heckler & Koch SR9]] sniper rifles seen on-screen are actually converted [[Heckler_%26_Koch_PSG1#Heckler_.26_Koch_HK9|Heckler & Koch HK91]]?

... that the pages for shows like ''[[24]]'' and ''[[Miami_Vice_(TV_Series)|Miami Vice]]'' became too big at some point, so each Season was given itīs very own page?

... that [[Bruce Willis]] used a [[Die_Hard#Beretta_92F|Beretta 92F]] in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' movie, but a [[Die_Hard_with_a_Vengeance#Beretta_92FS|Beretta 92FS]] in the [[Die Hard 2|second]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance|third]]?

... that during Yuri Orlovs ([[Nicolas Cage]]) review of the weapon stockpile in ''[[Lord of War]]'', the production actually used 3.000 real [[Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle|SA Vz.58 assault rifle]]s?

... that the [[Cobray 37mm Launcher]] is often used to impersonate the [[M203]]?

... that most of the weapons seen on ''[[Torchwood]]'' are actually airsoft?


these are only suggestions. The only problem right now is that there really is no more space on the front page for it.

AdAstra2009 01-21-2011 06:51 PM

I think it's an interesting idea. I'd reword it though and would not use "Did You Know" as I think it comes off a little elementary schoolish.

predator20 01-21-2011 07:24 PM

I guess you could call it IMFDB Trivia page. We have something similar, but it has to do with what MPM has brought to the site. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Movie...7s_Own_Armorer

Milkovich 01-21-2011 07:44 PM

Never noticed he had such a page up, thanks for the link.

Excalibur 01-22-2011 05:14 AM

That does sound like a good idea

MoviePropMaster2008 01-22-2011 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 24547)
I guess you could call it IMFDB Trivia page. We have something similar, but it has to do with what MPM has brought to the site. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Movie...7s_Own_Armorer

aaaaaaah! Forgot that page existed. I was embarrassed then. I am embarrassed now. Note that I never edited nor contributed to that page. I just don't want other armorers to feel slighted in any way. My only real source of pride is my gun photography for IMFDB. There are tons of armorers who do tons more work. I will continue to try to custom build variants to match those seen in certain films and photograph them for IMFDB. Though I still find the page a bit embarrassing I must at least thank the IMFDB members who made it for the very very kind compliments, unwarranted though they may be. :D

bunni 01-23-2011 04:56 AM

I like the idea too, anyone else have any thoughts? It could be implemented on the main page just like the quotes/featured articles.

Excalibur 01-23-2011 05:15 AM

Well I like to add a new thing under the daily quotes from movies. We have a section for the trivia

ManiacallyChallenged 01-23-2011 12:06 PM

You da man, MPM.
Being the website's claim to fame, we need you to stick around and be awesome like always.

bunni 01-23-2011 04:18 PM

I added it to the front page and created a Trivia template so it can be added to. I took out the piece about the imfdb article pages as I feel we should focus on film/television/firearm trivia. Let me know your thoughts on the formatting... it's getting a little crowded and I want to make sure it's not hard to follow/read.

BeardedHoplite 01-23-2011 04:28 PM

For the formatting I'd suggest instead of
Trivia
Quote
Feat. Film


It should be
Quote
Trivia
Feat. Film

Milkovich 01-23-2011 07:24 PM

http://image-upload.de/image/rIsVOb/cde3071be5.png

Just an idea

predator20 01-23-2011 07:34 PM

Should we have first usage also? Like Year of the Dragon is the first use of the Desert Eagle in film, Miami Vice Season 3 is the first Glock usage etc.

There's also the Star Model B was a common substitute for the Colt 1911 in the 60s and 70s.

1911s used prior to the mid 80s were often in 9mm.

predator20 01-23-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkovich (Post 24648)

I like that

BurtReynoldsMoustache 01-23-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 24649)
Should we have first usage also? Like Year of the Dragon is the first use of the Desert Eagle in film, Miami Vice Season 3 is the first Glock usage etc. .

Oh my goodness yes this would be excellent.

bunni 01-23-2011 10:32 PM

I can't see the image?

predator20 01-23-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bunni (Post 24656)
I can't see the image?

Instead of having the "Did you know" at the top of the page, he shows it beside the New Articles and recently updated.

bunni 01-23-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache (Post 24653)
Oh my goodness yes this would be excellent.

I did some work - the basics are there anyone can tweak with the aesthetics now.

funkychinaman 01-24-2011 02:38 AM

It looks great. But someone has to remember to update the facts. A new set once a month perhaps?

Milkovich 01-24-2011 06:34 AM

Bunni, click here. It should work.

MoviePropMaster2008 01-24-2011 06:57 AM

I still think it's a bit too large. It is a trivia bar after all. Perhaps a table that is skinnier would be good.

Excalibur 01-24-2011 07:06 AM

I think instead of on the side, it should be right under the quote section

Milkovich 01-24-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 24673)
I still think it's a bit too large. It is a trivia bar after all. Perhaps a table that is skinnier would be good.

The way my suggestion works I'd be implemented in a way that wont clutter or lengthen the page needlessly. Imho.

MT2008 01-24-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 24663)
It looks great. But someone has to remember to update the facts. A new set once a month perhaps?

Anybody who's a member can update it any time.

funkychinaman 01-24-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 24679)
Anybody who's a member can update it any time.

Where is that?

Milkovich 01-24-2011 08:02 PM

Chinese man, prease click here

funkychinaman 01-24-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkovich (Post 24693)

Thank you very much.

AdAstra2009 01-25-2011 01:39 AM

Okay I think I am seeing a problem with the trivia section primarily what goes into it. We need to be more picky about what is included.



I will explain now and the reasons in bold.

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... that there are barely any discernible differences between the outward appearance of the [[Beretta_M9#Beretta_92F.2FFS|Beretta 92F]] and [[Beretta_M9#Beretta_92F.2FFS|Beretta 92FS]]?
Not really what I would call trivia, it's not really interesting even to a firearms buff because "M9" is just the military designation and not a different gun really It's like saying "There are little to no difference i appearance between the AR-15 and the M16" Except that the M9 is only different from the Beretta 92FS in name. <.
... that [[Bruce Willis]] used a [[Die_Hard#Beretta_92F|Beretta 92F]] in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' movie, but a [[Die_Hard_with_a_Vengeance#Beretta_92FS|Beretta 92FS]] in the [[Die Hard 2|second]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance|third]]?
While this can be classified as trivia I don't think it's trivia section worthy. It's just like something you read and go "umm okaay...herp derp"
... that the [[Desert Eagle]] "point five-oh" used by Bullet-Tooth Tony [[Vinnie Jones]] in ''[[Snatch.]]'' was actually chambered in .44 Magnum?
While it is trivia it just comes off as pedantic IMHO and only adds to people's perception of IMFDB being anal and snarky.It's also not really interesting IMHO and is from a semi obscure film.
... that the gold plated [[Taurus PT92]] with pearl grips and a black barrel used on ''[[Smokin' Aces 2: Assassins' Ball]]'' also saw use in ''[[Driven to Kill]]''?
I'm kind of on the border of this one, now if these films were well known I think it would be a good piece of trivia however both films are sort of obscure so I don't think the average IMFDB viewer would be all that thrilled by reading it.
Now these right here are fine examples of what I think should be allowed in the trivia section, they are all items that I think most anyone who reads them will be intrigued by.

Quote:

... that most firearms used on ''[[A-Team, The|The A-Team (TV Series)]]'' are actually semi-automatic only? The actors were told to pull the triggers rapidly and in conjunction with the sound and special effects the illusion of automatic fire was achieved.
A Mainstream show coupled with a dynamic piece of trivia, a perfect example.
... that during Yuri Orlov's ([[Nicolas Cage]]) review of the weapon stockpile in ''[[Lord of War]]'', the production actually used 3.000 real [[Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle|SA Vz.58 assault rifle]]s?
A Popular film that has a thought provoking trivia piece.
... that all of the "[[AK-47]]" rifles in ''[[District 9]]'' are actually modified [[Galil#Vektor R5|Vektor R5s]]?
A Popular film and a trivia piece that explores vis modding
... that in Soviet films such as ''[[Solo Voyage]]'' and ''[[Pirates of the XXth Century (Piraty XX veka)|Pirates of the XXth Century]]'', the [[Sturmgewehr 44]] stood in for the [[M16]]?
A WW2 Firearm well known by many impersonating a firearm from the modern era, I'm sure many will find this interesting.
... that director [[Michael Mann]] used [[Barrett M82]] sniper rifles with live .50 BMG ammunition to destroy a car for a scene in ''[[Miami Vice (2006)]]''?
Displaying that something that occured in the film was the real deal should be interesting to the most mainstream reader.

Excalibur 01-25-2011 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkovich (Post 24693)

What does being Chinese have to do with this? I'm Chinese and I like an explaination

predator20 01-25-2011 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 24704)
What does being Chinese have to do with this? I'm Chinese and I like an explaination

I think it was because of Funkychinaman's username

predator20 01-25-2011 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 24698)
Okay I think I am seeing a problem with the trivia section primarily what goes into it. We need to be more picky about what is included.

... that [[Bruce Willis]] used a [[Die_Hard#Beretta_92F|Beretta 92F]] in the first ''[[Die Hard]]'' movie, but a [[Die_Hard_with_a_Vengeance#Beretta_92FS|Beretta 92FS]] in the [[Die Hard 2|second]] and [[Die Hard with a Vengeance|third]]?
While this can be classified as trivia I don't think it's trivia section worthy. It's just like something you read and go "umm okaay...herp derp"

I think this is better trivia, is that one of the Beretta 92F pistols used in Lethal Weapon was also used in Die Hard.

MT2008 01-25-2011 04:12 AM

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... that the gold plated [[Taurus PT92]] with pearl grips and a black barrel used on ''[[Smokin' Aces 2: Assassins' Ball]]'' also saw use in ''[[Driven to Kill]]''?
I'm kind of on the border of this one, now if these films were well known I think it would be a good piece of trivia however both films are sort of obscure so I don't think the average IMFDB viewer would be all that thrilled by reading it.
I agree. It's not like those are popular movies; they're direct-to-DVD crap. I'd prefer we try to limit the trivia to better-known movies that people actually give a shit about.

Also, guns from a particular armory get reused all the time. Any time you see a particular firearm in a movie or TV show, that gun has already been used on dozens or hundreds of other productions. We don't want to have new trivia for every time we see the same gun being used on many different movies. That would get out of control too quickly.

funkychinaman 01-25-2011 04:24 AM

Snarky? Probably not. Anal? I don't know if we can shy away from that one.

AdAstra2009 01-25-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 24713)
Snarky? Probably not. Anal? I don't know if we can shy away from that one.

Either way it's an obscure film with an uninteresting piece of information/"trivia" that is unlikely to find interest in readers.

MoviePropMaster2008 01-25-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 24704)
What does being Chinese have to do with this? I'm Chinese and I like an explaination

Try reading the user's name. Duh. Personally I am not fond of the name, but he likes it so it's his choice.

MT2008 01-25-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 24704)
What does being Chinese have to do with this? I'm Chinese and I like an explaination

Quote:

Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 24706)
I think it was because of Funkychinaman's username

Excal, sometimes I worry about you.

Excalibur 01-25-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 24720)
Excal, sometimes I worry about you.

What? So I've never paid attention to the guy's name. I've always read the Funky part but never the rest cause it blends so well together. And I've never heard it out loud, so I forgot

MT2008 01-25-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 24724)
What? So I've never paid attention to the guy's name. I've always read the Funky part but never the rest cause it blends so well together. And I've never heard it out loud, so I forgot

Well and done, but next time, read a little more carefully. Otherwise, it looks like you have ADHD or something.

Markit 01-25-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 24698)
... that the [[Desert Eagle]] "point five-oh" used by Bullet-Tooth Tony [[Vinnie Jones]] in ''[[Snatch.]]'' was actually chambered in .44 Magnum?
While it is trivia it just comes off as pedantic IMHO and only adds to people's perception of IMFDB being anal and snarky.It's also not really interesting IMHO and is from a semi obscure film.

I've replaced this piece of trivia with one about the Beretta 92 from 'The Hurt Locker' which should be more interesting.

MoviePropMaster2008 01-25-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Markit (Post 24728)
I've replaced this piece of trivia with one about the Beretta 92 from 'The Hurt Locker' which should be more interesting.

Yes, trivia that is really minor should not be listed. In many times, the armorers or production could NOT GET the weapon as listed in the film .... and the director shot it as scripted ANYWAY. That is a mistake and not something we need to harp on.


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