This page is crap
 

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Perfect_Dark
Most of the guns on there are fictional and I keep on removing them (Example "Dragon & Superdragon) are claimed to be the G36 which they have no resemblance to and are fabrications.
There is also a Magazine fed grenade launcher that is listed as the AG-36.
He also claims that the "Falcon 2" is a AMT Hardballer just because the Scope looks like the laserlock sight from terminator even though it resembles the Colt Double Eagle much more.
There are a ton out there.

I keep on trying to fix the page but some guy "Dongs" keeps on undoing my revisions everytime I try to fix it.

Not to mention the page sounds like it was written by a 12 year old with sentences like
Also literally half the "guns" on there are Alien phaser guns or something

Not anymore. I deleated all of the purly fictional content and I do belive that the 007: Goldeneye page does say that such and such a gun is also found in Perfect Dark so I deleated those enties as well.
I don't want to vandalize the page but you are right it was crap.

Oh thank god. I just noticed it had been really screwed up, so glad that's taken care of.

I mean, come on. Hardballer? HONESTLY?

"It's a Hardballer longslide. Without the longslide."

Yes this page is crap and it should be deleted

Yeah, I concur. Let's delete this rubbish.

I just deleted the page.

Cool.
If I get time I can try to rebuild it to our sites standards.
Ya know, the standards that require it to be accurate. And contain pictures of guns, not alien phasers.

Well, most of the guns in Perfect Dark didn't look like real guns to begin with

Well there were a few.
The Falcon 2, Sniper Rifle, CMP-150, Dy-357, and AR-34 were exact duplicates of real world weaponry.

I don't think the page should be restored at all. It was for the N64 like a 100 years ago and only a few guns out of many are real based models? No, not needed. At least, not until far more important pages are made. There are better uses for the manpower than wasting time making that page.

I agree completely with that thought

I'm getting kind of annoyed by all these pages of user made game mods.
Can they be deleted?

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Zombie_Panic:_Source

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Project_Reality

Deleted and deleted. Anything else? :D

not right now, but I'm sure something will come up. :cool:

Ok, I found another page. This time a flashgame.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Endless_War

I think we need to have something on the main page along the lines of no flash-games, or game mods.
Something along the lines of if it's not listed on IMDB it shouldn't be here either.

Nuked. Any more, don't hesitate to report.

Got another.
"Resistance 2"
A game with no real guns, and a sequel to a game with no real guns.
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Resistance_2

This might be debatable, because I swear the last time I really took a good look at either game, some of the weapons in the game were based off of real guns - I think one took a lot of it's appearance from the M1A1 Thompson.

Let's see some shots of all of the weapons, then make the call.

I did a quick google search
"M5A2"
http://www.resistanceunion.com/wprof...a2-carbine.jpg
"L23 Fareye"
http://www.resistanceunion.com/wprof...l23-fareye.jpg
"Rossmore 238"
http://www.resistanceunion.com/wprof...ssmore-238.jpg
"bellock"
http://www.resistanceunion.com/wprof...-automatic.jpg

"HE .44 Magnum"
http://www.resistanceunion.com/wprof....44-magnum.jpg

Those are the only ones that look remotely real, I vote delete article.

Yeah, those are pretty strange.
I could swear I saw a hint of B.A.R. in that "M5A2."
I mean, the game is supposed to take place after the aliens invaded the planet before WW2...
so maybe? I dunno.
I vote delete, it doesn't appear any screen grabs will be forthcoming.

found another.

"Insurgency" its a Source mod

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Insurgency

BTW resistance 2 is still up

I'm looking at this Mod for Half Life, and the fact the page actually has screencaps and links makes me hesitant to delete it.

I deleted Resistance 2 and read this "A nickle-finish 1911 is seen used by Capelli in cutscenes, noticeably to kill an infected Hale At the end of game."

First off, I hate when people can't spell nickel, and second, thanks for spoiling the game asshole...

I also found this Einhander page just made, it is a PS1 game with maybe two semi-realistically based guns and about 11 guns that are complete fiction (including one based on a lightsaber!). But the user who made it obviously put effort into it and added screencaps, so I'd feel bad deleting it out of the blue on him.

there's only a couple screen caps. No one has capped this in a while

I don't think we need to delete pages for fairly well-known, professionally-done mods like "Insurgency".

Yes but then you will have a bunch of other crap mod pages being put up and they'll say "why can't we have a mod page, Insurgency does"

this page also kind of blows

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Desperate_Housewives

Well I have started doing a cleanup sweep of the site and so far I have gotten to A-Team,The. With all the fictional weapons and the pages that start with numbers there are mostly good pages. Some pages in the 007 series and both 50cent pages need images but other than that it's good. if anyone else wants to go through the drugery of cleaning up sections just post what sections you are going to do first.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Farscape

Can we delete pages like this???

please :D

Just to bring this up since I finally registered an account, that's actually more or less true as per the image I uploaded to compare the two:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...en-compare.jpg

Though the Dragon has a flat-top mount rail rather than the higher one there. Granted, it's horribly mutiliated, but Sarge's G36-based gun in the Doom movie actually ends up looking fairly similar to it. For the rest, I apologise; the Falcon 2 is closer to a Double Eagle in terms of the gun itself, I just thought that since a major feature of it was based on a specific movie prop, that should be mentioned instead.

Also re ManiacallyChallenged on the Resistance M5A2, it's actually an M14 EBR with a vertical magazine, the stock of an L96A1 in wood and an M203 fitted. There's a nice thread of someone trying to reconstruct it here.

Yeah, saw that...not convinced. Resistance stays down.

Oh, I wasn't arguing it should be bought back, though I might throw together a page for Resistance 1 [where the Chimeran guns seem a little more based in reality] at some point. Only it'd have images and be any good.

Also, just to clear up: Resistance isn't set before WW2, it's set in an alternate 1950s where America was isolationist during WW1, there was never a Russian revolution or stock market collapse and the Nazis failed to win any support in Germany due to the stable economy.

That is a really crappy comparison, It has not resemblance to the G36 whatsoever.

Aside from the flash hider, long narrow forearm and shape of the lower reciever, you mean. As I pointed out, you have to look at how badly the Goldeneye weapons were mangled by Rare as a point of reference for how badly they're going to mangle any other weapon.

flash hider? long narrow forearm? Those features could be associated with a very large number of rifles.
And the receiver looks nothing like the G36's.
What you are doing is called matrixing, kind of like when you look in the clouds and you associate it with an object you know of like a dog even though it's just a cloud.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the developers at rare just made that weapon without any real reference?

No, because that doesn't happen; everything is based on something, it's how the human brain works. And why would it have an M16 ejection port if it was made without any real references?

I think it's more the case that you're trying not to see the similarities and focusing on the differences, of which there are no shortage. Rare definately just glance at their reference and replicate it very poorly with little idea of why it looks that way. However, I would point out that when I added that you had already removed it from the article once; in other words, at least two seperate users saw it was similar to the G36. In addition, there's the more obvious fact that when it came time to make Perfect Dark Zero, Rare chose to make the Dragon...A G36. I'd take that as a hint as to the origin of the original.

....ok so I'm part of a conspiracy to make it look like the dragon from perfect dark is not a G36?

Or maybe more people saw that it looked nothing like a G36 so they didn't put it down as one.
That game blows and it's also by a different development team essentially

I don't know why we are arguing about this the page has already been deleted by the mods anyway.

I didn't say that, I just said you're not going to see something subjective that you don't want to see. Much like how you and I could argue all day whether someone had trimmed their hedge to look like a dog or it just happened to be that way, and whether it's a dog, cat or horse. Ultimately, the Dragon is so damn vague it's difficult to be definitive about it; I'd say the fact it was later represented as a G36 plus some slightly G36-esque features would indicate a basis in that weapon, though with hindsight it was something of a push to go on to say 'this is a G36' on that basis; it wasn't nearly as clear as, say, the K7 being a copy of the Starship Troopers Morita.

Hm? What I mean is this isn't something only I can see here.

Oh, I don't mean to argue, just explain my reasoning. I'm sorry if I came off as rude at all.

Anyway, are we going to make a PDZ page? The guns in that are much more based on real guns, as shown here. http://perfectdark.3dactionplanet.ga...dzero/weapons/

Even if Perfect Dark had guns with similarities to real guns (which they have minor, but they are pretty vague), who cares? I've brought this up before, it's for the Nintendo 64, a console long dead to the world. I don't think anyone is going on IMFDB to see what guns were used in the original Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark Zero? Maybe, I've seen how some of the guns aren't really real-life based.