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Excalibur 11-08-2009 03:30 PM

Rules about how many screenshots
 
I want to know if we should put a limit on how many screen shots of one weapon can we put on a page? I usually limit to 4-5 shots at different angles and usually in the hands of different actors including if we see a different setup of the weapon.

Because some pages I see unnecessarily that people love to post 10 images of the same weapon at different angles. This I think wastes space when half of those images already proves the point.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 03:41 PM

I think the limit should be 10 or 8. Sometimes more than 10 but only under extreme circunstances.

Excalibur 11-08-2009 04:49 PM

You think 10 screen caps of an M4 would be a good idea?

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 05:37 PM

Only if they show the M4s being in differents hands or show goofs or anachorisms related to the M4s.

predator20 11-08-2009 06:11 PM

On the Apocalypse Now page, I have 9 M16A1 images. It doesn't look like too many, at least to me. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Apocalypse_Now

As long as there are different actors handling the same gun more than 5 seems ok., but no more than 10.

Oliveira, not to bash your work on We Were Soldiers. But 24 XM16E1 images looks way overboard.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 8312)
On the Apocalypse Now page, I have 9 M16A1 images. It doesn't look like too many, at least to me. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Apocalypse_Now

As long as there are different actors handling the same gun more than 5 seems ok., but no more than 10.

Oliveira, not to bash your work on We Were Soldiers. But 24 XM16E1 images looks way overboard.

I know that. I just uploaded every single screencap I had of the XM16E1s. I stopped it when MPM told me to stop it. I he didn't stop me that section would have more 40 screencaps. I'm sorry. Real sorry.

Anyway, 10 screencaps ain't much. Now 15...that's overboard.

predator20 11-08-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 8313)
I know that. I just uploaded every single screencap I had of the XM16E1s. I stopped it when MPM told me to stop it. I he didn't stop me that section would have more 40 screencaps. I'm sorry. Real sorry.

Anyway, 10 screencaps ain't much. Now 15...that's overboard.

While there are 24 images, they are all good shots of the gun.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 8314)
While there are 24 images, they are all good shots of the gun.

That was the problem. That movie is perfect gun porn. I was just getting good shots of the guns, really. If you look at them, you'll see that most of them show the receiver.

MoviePropMaster2008 11-08-2009 06:51 PM

My rule is Seven to ten, with ten being the UPPERMOST limit, period. I've had visitors looking at pages (I was watching them while they surfed IMFDB) and they got bored when they ran into sections that had 14-24 images of the same gun. Even these brand new visitors exclaimed that it was ridiculous and they immediately navigated AWAY from that page. Now would any one of us WANT visitors to navigate away from the pages we built? Editing is a discipline, and for any of us who have edited a story or school newspaper or yearbook, you know that a good editor makes the hard choices and will remove obviously good (but unnecessary) shots.

It's like forcing someone to look at each and every screencap you did, whether they like it or not. :eek:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...reencapper.jpg

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 07:01 PM

Seven to ten is pretty good.

MT2008 11-08-2009 08:09 PM

I generally try to avoid more than 6 nowadays. It does depend on the movie and gun, though. I mean, on the one hand, nobody needs to see 20 images of a type of gun that appears in hundreds of other movies (like a Glock or an AK). On the other hand, there are some movies where it's a bit more tempting and understandable...like my "Deep Rising" page where I have lots of images of the M1-L1 pulse rifles.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 08:12 PM

I agree with MT2008. Some pages need more than 10 screencaps.

Excalibur 11-08-2009 08:16 PM

Well some pages do need 10, but then few movies and TV that I've been doing, I try not to go beyond 4-5. Especially on my Unit page where it spanned 4 seasons. If they continued the series, we'd have to make a whole new page for it

MT2008 11-08-2009 08:30 PM

Yeah, it's always worse with TV shows. Having 10 or more images for gun in shows that have featured dozens of different makes/models (like "Stargate: SG1") would be almost unreadable. Look at what happened with "Miami Vice", for instance.

Excalibur 11-08-2009 08:36 PM

Which is why Miami Vice has more than one page

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 08:39 PM

Brian and Gunman did a great job on the Miami Vice project. We should use it as an example of what to do when screencapping and doing pages about long Television shows.

predator20 11-08-2009 08:47 PM

I just uploaded the last episodes of season 3. There are two middle episodes that I need to go back on and grab some caps. They weren't necessary when there was one page but now season 3 looks blank in a few areas. Two more freaking seasons to go.

Brian

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 08:51 PM

Godammit Predator. Don't start leaving your name on your posts.

Anyway, I seen Astra going around removing screencaps from pages. I just hope he doesn't go fucking around with my pages.

predator20 11-08-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 8337)
Godammit Predator. Don't start leaving your name on your posts.

Anyway, I seen Astra going around removing screencaps from pages. I just hope he doesn't go fucking around with my pages.

Well, you said "Brian and Gunman". Some people may not know who Brian is.

If Astra is removing screencaps from other peoples pages he should at least contact the members who did the work and let them decide what stays and goes. It may discourage them from contributing anymore work, if he does it without them knowing.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 09:07 PM

Which is why I don't really like his idea of removing the screencaps. At least talk about in the Forum.

MT2008 11-08-2009 09:14 PM

Astra's only removing images from pages he worked on.

Also, I think we can at least "grandfather" the existing pages that we might perceive as having too many caps. Just avoid it in the future, that's all.

MoviePropMaster2008 11-08-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by predator20 (Post 8339)
Well, you said "Brian and Gunman". Some people may not know who Brian is.

If Astra is removing screencaps from other peoples pages he should at least contact the members who did the work and let them decide what stays and goes. It may discourage them from contributing anymore work, if he does it without them knowing.

It's happened to me. Others have removed MY screencaps without my knowledge or consent (and you all know that I don't overdo it with screencaps and I've been ranting against that for years). But ultimately it was no big deal. I only respond to obvious vandalism, and/or clearly wrong information.

I support fixing pages, but then that's my own opinion. With some of the membership who listen to input, then it's polite to ask them to pick which ones to remove. The problem is that some don't want to edit ... ever. So it can be problematic depending on who the person is.

AdAstra2009 11-08-2009 09:59 PM

Like MT2008 said I'm only removing screencaps from pages I worked on/screencaps I uploaded myself.

In my previous work I've uploaded too many screencaps that I now realize was redundant;so now I'm thinning the excessive screencaps.If I wanted to remove screencaps of someone else's(unless it was an obvious duplicate screencap) I'll discuss it here. Or on the discussion page.

Ace Oliveira 11-08-2009 11:06 PM

Oh. Sorry. I didn't know you were removing images from your pages. Didn't Gunmaster do the Minority Report page, though?

AdAstra2009 11-09-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira (Post 8346)
Didn't Gunmaster do the Minority Report page, though?

Nope
-he identified the revolver for me though, thats it.

Alcatrazz 11-09-2009 02:11 AM

People need to, in general, lose the idea that what they contribute to this site belongs to them. (Except for MPM2008's photos.) This is a wiki, not a dick-comparison website. Need I remind you what is shown every time anyone edits anything?

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bunni 11-09-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 8303)
I want to know if we should put a limit on how many screen shots of one weapon can we put on a page? I usually limit to 4-5 shots at different angles and usually in the hands of different actors including if we see a different setup of the weapon.

Because some pages I see unnecessarily that people love to post 10 images of the same weapon at different angles. This I think wastes space when half of those images already proves the point.

I'd say a limit per weapon/per character is appropriate... 2? 3?

eg. If four different characters fire an 870 you would include at most 2 of each character.

Thoughts?

Ace Oliveira 11-09-2009 03:26 PM

I don't like the character limit.

7 to 10 screencapps is good enough for any movie.

We are talking about screencaps in movies and television only, right? Because screencaps in video game pages is an entirely different story.


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