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AdAstra2009 05-31-2009 04:06 PM

Gun Identification
 
I'm posting here because I had this identified as a Winchester 1200/1300 and someone disputed it because of the forearm.
And I guess other people can post here if they can't identify something else.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...x-D78M5002.jpg

I don't think it's a Mossberg because of the trigger guard.

Phoenixent 05-31-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 3324)
I'm posting here because I had this identified as a Winchester 1200/1300 and someone disputed it because of the forearm.
And I guess other people can post here if they can't identify something else.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...x-D78M5002.jpg

I don't think it's a Mossberg because of the trigger guard.


It's not a Winchester or a Mossberg. The shotgun is a Smith & Wesson Model 916.

k9870 05-31-2009 06:55 PM

Smith made shotguns?

Phoenixent 05-31-2009 07:38 PM

Smith & Wesson made the Model 916 here in the United States. When it became a large failure due to quality problems it was dropped in 1972. Smith & Wesson then contracted Howa Industries in Japan to make the Model 3000 pump shotgun and the Model 1000 semi-auto shotgun. Those models were built with the intention to displace Remington from the law enforcement market. The Model 3000 was a Remington 870 clone well built but 870 accessories did not interchange with the 3000. When Smith & Wesson was not able to displace Remington the project was dropped. So ended S&W move to make shotguns.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 12:08 AM

Well now I know what shotgun was used in 1968 Tunnel Rats. Thanks!

And whoever debunked it based on its pump forend needs a better version of differentiation, since shotgun pumps can be switched out. You can base it on the safety location, trigger guard, magazine tube cap, and far better methods.

MoviePropMaster2008 06-01-2009 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 3360)
Well now I know what shotgun was used in 1968 Tunnel Rats. Thanks!

And whoever debunked it based on its pump forend needs a better version of differentiation, since shotgun pumps can be switched out. You can base it on the safety location, trigger guard, magazine tube cap, and far better methods.

If that's the only differentiating factor, then it can be. :) There are some forearms which are very distinctive and as far as I know, never used on another manufacturer's shotgun. I would probably never see a mossberg style forearm on a Remington because they don't fit (I know, I've tried) You can try to custom fit a forearm, but it's a pain because you need to alter the contours on the inside of the piece. :D

AdAstra2009 06-01-2009 02:46 AM

Well while we're at it I got two more from the same page.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/b/...78hunting2.jpg
And the snubnose in the middle.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...ketpistols.jpg

Spartan198 06-01-2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 3387)

Looks like a Mauser of some sort. I initially thought K98, but the fore stock looks too short.

Phoenixent 06-01-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 3387)
Well while we're at it I got two more from the same page.
And the snubnose in the middle.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...ketpistols.jpg

The revolver is a H&R Model 632 Revolver in .32 caliber.

Gunmaster45 06-01-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 3405)
Looks like a Mauser of some sort. I initially thought K98, but the fore stock looks too short.

It could be a K98k with a sporting stock. Not every gun is fit for only one type of stock.

k9870 06-01-2009 08:15 PM

Im wondering, is there a way to telling the difference between a m48 and k98 without looking for stamps on the reciever or what not? m48s are way more common around here and im betting a few have made there way into movies. Fired one today and can say if i wasn't reading the big "m48" and seeing star stamped in i wouldnt be able to tell.

AdAstra2009 06-09-2009 05:04 PM

K9870: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=172584

Anyone know what kind of gun this is.
Someone suggested a S&W bodyguard but the shallow where the hammer normally is located is still there.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...mrevolver2.jpg

k9870 06-09-2009 11:11 PM

I know hoe to tell the difference if i actually get to pick it up, not from looking at it on a screen though. Mitchells has a bad rep though...

AdAstra2009 06-19-2009 03:02 PM

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/...600px-Edom.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/6/...Eseamusrun.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/b/...mustrigger.jpg

Anyone know what this is.
Flying Dane had it as a Remington 870 but after looking at it I don't think it is.

Gunmaster45 06-19-2009 07:12 PM

That's definately a pistol gripped Mossberg 500.

MT2008 06-19-2009 08:07 PM

Some of the sweepers in the movie use pistol-grip 870s, but yeah, John's right, the one used by Dominic Purcell's character is most definitely a 'berg 500.

AdAstra2009 06-19-2009 08:24 PM

I just did a massive overhaul of that page (if your wondering why it's one of my favorite movies of all time)
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/c/...ellisearch.jpg
Turns out that most of the shotguns are actually Benelli M3's. (aside from Dominic's and one of the sweepers)

Gunmaster45 06-19-2009 08:52 PM

I need to watch this movie some time. I watched most of Ultraviolet on sci-fi, while it wasn't oscar worthy, it was kind of cool. I've heard good things about this movie though, so I might rent it sometime to watch.

AdAstra2009 06-19-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 4016)
I need to watch this movie some time. I watched most of Ultraviolet on sci-fi, while it wasn't oscar worthy, it was kind of cool. I've heard good things about this movie though, so I might rent it sometime to watch.

Yeah definitely watch it.
It's like A brave new world, 1984, and the matrix thrown together.
Also has an awesome soundtrack.

AdAstra2009 06-22-2009 09:29 PM

http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/60/3brifles5.jpg
Anyone know what kind of rifle that is?

First one on here

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Three...Estrada%2C_The

-edit nevermind Gunmaster45 told me

k9870 06-22-2009 10:46 PM

How bout this?
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:Grsc1.jpg

Gunmaster45 06-22-2009 10:50 PM

:D No problem. If I had to guess on that gun, I'd say it is a Mauser 1934 Humpback pistol, but I'll see what everyone else thinks.

Phoenixent 06-22-2009 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 4127)
:D No problem. If I had to guess on that gun, I'd say it is a Mauser 1934 Humpback pistol, but I'll see what everyone else thinks.

I agree with GM45 it is a Mauser Pocket Pistol either a 1914 or 1934. It hard to tell which model at that angle.

Nyles 06-23-2009 01:24 AM

Almost certainly a Mauser 1934 - incidentally, quite a popular private-purchase pistol for Japanese officers.

AdAstra2009 07-09-2009 03:23 AM

I got a couple from the 1978 dawn of the dead.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/9/9f/D78shotguncache.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/64/D78shotgun2.jpg

& take a guess at this one, someone said a S&W model 10 but I doubt that is correct.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b3/D78rev.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/9/...px-D78rev3.jpg

Nyles 07-09-2009 03:30 AM

The shotgun in the first pic is a Mossberg 500 - you can tell by the lifter. The rifle is a Marlin 336 by the receiver. The revolver could be a Model 10, can't tell by those pictures.

AdAstra2009 07-09-2009 04:18 AM

Hmm I didn't suspect the Mossberg at first because the trigger guard had sort of a sharp trapezoid shape to it.
Maybe it was a trick of the light.

Gunmaster45 07-10-2009 09:04 PM

Okay guys, here's one for you. I'm screencapping Face/Off, so I'm wondering what the sniper rifle is Castor Troy (Nicolas Cage) uses during the opening scene.

Here's two of the three shots:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2vkzwxj.jpg
^ This shot shows the safety switch located inside the trigger guard. This scratched the Remington 700/M40 rifles, since the have a flick safety to the left of the reciever tang.

http://i28.tinypic.com/23uen3n.jpg
^ This is the best shot we see of it, so it's all I can give you.


So, any ideas?

Yournamehere 07-10-2009 09:52 PM

I'm seeing a lot of examples of the Remington 700 that do not have this safety, and a similar trigger guard/ overall build. I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

Nyles 07-11-2009 05:24 PM

That's not the safety, that's the release for the floorplate. It's a Remington 700 alright, all the non-detachable mag models have it.

Yournamehere 07-11-2009 10:48 PM

Yeah I figured it had something to do with the mag release/floorplate too, when I say "do not have this safety" I was referring to the flick safety GM mentioned. Anyhow, like I said, 700.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 01:36 AM

Ah, I see. I'm glad I posed this on here, now I know. Now I can start making Face/Off sooner. Another iffie:

http://i25.tinypic.com/zlp189.jpg

Some type of side-folding AKMS, but the stock style doesn't look like an MPi-KMS. Any of the AK pros know?

MT2008 07-12-2009 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 4505)
Ah, I see. I'm glad I posed this on here, now I know. Now I can start making Face/Off sooner. Another iffie:

http://i25.tinypic.com/zlp189.jpg

Some type of side-folding AKMS, but the stock style doesn't look like an MPi-KMS. Any of the AK pros know?

There's a gun just like that one in "Executive Decision", which I documented on the page for that film. I think it may be an AKM fitted with a Vz. 58 side-folder stock, which is not a simple fit, but one that at least a few people I've seen on the AK Forum managed to accomplish.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 04:13 AM

That's the page I saw the same gun on before! I knew there was another movie with this AKMS in it, but I couldn't remember. Thanks for the help.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 04:28 AM

Here's one:

http://i29.tinypic.com/30hq05t.jpg

The Smith & Wesson Auto 9mm used by Sasha Hassler ([[Gina Gershon]]), I have no idea what it is. It is compact (so this rules out the full sized 5906 and the subcompact 6906), and has a bobbed hammer (but is compact and not subcompact which ruled out the 669). I'm not sure what type of S&W it is, I figured you guys could help.

One last thing. The Colt Commandos used by the police on the river. While I'm sure they are civilian Colt Sporter 1s or 2s converted, the selector switch is clearly on full auto. This would imply the lower is not a civilian version, since civie ARs don't even have a full-auto selection. Does this mean they have GAU/5 lowers?

Here's a shot:
http://i27.tinypic.com/11hs9rd.jpg

Yournamehere 07-12-2009 05:15 AM

The 69 series are compact guns, not subcompact. There is no size in between the 59 and 69 series guns. However it still isn't a 6906 because it appears to have a single stack frame. If this is so, it's a 3913.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 05:32 AM

It's too big to be a 3913 and the front of the frame isn't shaped right. And I know they isn't a specific size order, but it is easier for me to refer to the smallest as sub-compact, and go up from there.

MT2008 07-12-2009 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 4511)
The 69 series are compact guns, not subcompact. There is no size in between the 59 and 69 series guns. However it still isn't a 6906 because it appears to have a single stack frame. If this is so, it's a 3913.

The 3913's barrel is smaller and much more triangular-shaped than that. I'll take a look at my 1993 Smith & Wesson catalog tomorrow.

Yournamehere 07-12-2009 05:47 AM

I think that you think that the modern model is the only one, but it's not. The new ones have polygonal frames, but older, more realistic 3913s look like this:
http://i30.tinypic.com/314wkf9.jpg
Add in the fact that Gina Gershon is a woman, and therefore more than likely has smaller hands, and the gun is the perfect size for a 3913.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 05:50 AM

Here's more shots to help you narrow it down:

http://i30.tinypic.com/33nhzl2.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/16axnpg.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/331hv1t.jpg
^Note it has a bobbed hammer and decocking lever, and isn't DAO.

http://i27.tinypic.com/20tjya1.jpg


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