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Yournamehere 11-30-2008 11:11 PM

Lost
 
*Cough since everyone's making threads cough*

Anyone watch Lost? For a deserted island they sure get a lot of guns. I've noticed a lot of them, and a lot of mistakes on the show, and think, since it's so popular now, that a page on it would be reasonable. I'd need help though, for screencaps and stuff.

Excalibur 11-30-2008 11:22 PM

yes, I've seen Lost and I WAS thinking about doing a page about it, but...it seems like too much work since it the shots of guns are inbetween many of the episodes at a time and I lack the energy to actually watch them all again. I have season 1 on DVD, but it was season 2 when I saw some sort of AK type weapon with a small magazine.

MoviePropMaster2008 12-02-2008 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 100)
yes, I've seen Lost and I WAS thinking about doing a page about it, but...it seems like too much work since it the shots of guns are inbetween many of the episodes at a time and I lack the energy to actually watch them all again. I have season 1 on DVD, but it was season 2 when I saw some sort of AK type weapon with a small magazine.

Well, obviously you all haven't watched it enough to understand where the guns are coming from ;)

The SIGs were the property of the Marshalls who were taking Kate Austen back to the States for extradition.

The bolt action rifle carried by the 'crazy woman in the forest' Danielle Rousseau was one that her French team brought with them 16 years earlier.

later the survivors found a bunker with an armory. Initially the AKs had 5 round magazines (because Hawaii has that STUPID HIGH cap magazine ban) and they DON'T exempt movies. Now that the armorers have welded 30 round magazines (limited to ten) that look correct, they replaced the short magazines for the most part. Also the armory had LOTS of weapons.

Also the OTHERS (the other mysterious and evil people) on the island have their own weapons.

Hope this helps. I've seen them film this show on Oahu. I always laugh when I see 'flashbacks' to places like "Los Angeles" or "Houston" or "Philadelphia" or "New York" and I recognize the "monkey pod trees" of hawaii or see "diamondhead" crater in the background .hahahahahaha.

Hawaii is the new Canada! As far as this show is concerned. Everywhere in the world looks like Oahu! :)

Yournamehere 12-02-2008 02:43 AM

Yeah when I saw the short AK magazine, I remembered the hi cap mag rule is active in Hawaii, where they film the show, as they say on CheaperThanDirt that they can't sell high capacity mags to Hawaii and Jersey etc. I am smart too.

That aside, the show has an awful lot of mistakes such as:
Labeling a PPK as a 9mm
Switching said PPK out in one episode for a high polish Kahr Arms pistol
Constantly switching from the Beretta to the SIG

And, my favorite, giving Sawyer a BB gun SIG on the raft. If you pay attention to when Michael throws it at him with his shirt, you can see the bottom has one of those tightening rods seen on CO2 BB guns, and not a magazine as it should have. Though most people don't notice that since they aren't gun nuts, they see a gun, I saw a BB gun and laughed quite a bit. Ruined the drasticness of the scene

MoviePropMaster2008 12-02-2008 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 134)
And, my favorite, giving Sawyer a BB gun SIG on the raft. If you pay attention to when Michael throws it at him with his shirt, you can see the bottom has one of those tightening rods seen on CO2 BB guns, and not a magazine as it should have. Though most people don't notice that since they aren't gun nuts, they see a gun, I saw a BB gun and laughed quite a bit. Ruined the drasticness of the scene

Dude, If I were the armorer, and someone was TOSSING a handgun on the ocean to someone else, I'd sure a hell make sure it was a toy/fake rather than a real one. hahahahaha. :)

On a film I worked on, I STOPPED an actor from "improvising" and throwing my mint S&W Model 29 into a deep river. I yelled at him and told him that we had crappy fake guns for stuff like that. He said "Gee I didn't know that water would hurt the guns". I said "Water won't hurt the gun right away, now, explain to me how you're gonna retrieve my gun from the deep depths of a raving river? You gonna send divers down to get it?" Actors are so stupid sometimes.

Yes ... California has a High cap mag ban as well, but WE have an exemption for the motion picture armorers like me. Hawaii doesn't have an exemption for anyone. I know. I've argued with reps from the Honolulu PD prior to filming projects there several times. They just shrug their shoulder and say "oh well, that's the law". I always tell them "have you noticed how less and less WW2 and Vietnam movies are filming here (in Hawaii)?" I always wondered how John Woo got the high cap mag exemption for 'Windtalkers".....

Yournamehere 12-02-2008 03:00 AM

Haha, good point with the oceanwater! Yup, water+steel=bad. That's not even gun knowledge, that's simple chemistry, not to mention the rushing river deal. Pretty dumb guy.

You think if I took a picture of my 5906 Novak on a white background, you could fix it up and post it on IMFDB? You see the Novak version as much as the adjustable, and I think the distinction should be taken into account.

On another note, is anyone sure that 5906 picture is a 5906? It looks like a 5903 with a poorly cared for anodized frame to me.

MoviePropMaster2008 12-02-2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 141)
Haha, good point with the oceanwater! Yup, water+steel=bad. That's not even gun knowledge, that's simple chemistry, not to mention the rushing river deal. Pretty dumb guy.

You think if I took a picture of my 5906 Novak on a white background, you could fix it up and post it on IMFDB? You see the Novak version as much as the adjustable, and I think the distinction should be taken into account.

On another note, is anyone sure that 5906 picture is a 5906? It looks like a 5903 with a poorly cared for anodized frame to me.

I don't think it's a 5906 but I don't have one around for comparison. I will be trying to photograph one eventually. I never had a 5906 and I regretted not getting one. My business partners in the past all had TONS Of smith & Wesson autos so I never sweated it. I spent my $$ on a really big FAL, HK, m16 and AK collection (along with other various odd ball guns). Now the ONE GUN I can't photograph and we can't get a good of one. All my associates don't have theirs any more and those that do are hard to catch and schedule a shoot with.

Here is what you can do. Put your gun on a large piece of white cardboard (or white sheet if you don't have plain white matteboard or cardboard). If you can use diffused light it really helps. If you don't, reflect the light from bright work lights or clamp lights with strong bulbs (from Home Depot or something like that) against white cardboard near your pistol. If you have a transparent tub (like rubbermaid or Sterilite) from Walmart put the gun on the tub. The distance between the gun and the floor now should eliminate shadows or close to it. Stand over the gun and try to center it as much as possible. Don't use a wide angle lens up close to the gun. It distorts the lines of the gun. Keep it focused as clearly as possible, can't do much with a blurry photo. Also make sure it is a LARGE file with high resolution. I can fix that image. I can't fix low resolution small images. Hope that helps. :) Curious to know what your pistol looks likek :) Thanks for the offer.

Yournamehere 12-02-2008 03:26 AM

I'll get on it next time I'm doing absolutely nothing!

MoviePropMaster2008 12-02-2008 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 150)
I'll get on it next time I'm doing absolutely nothing!

hahaha. Heck I manage to do it when I'm busier than heck!

Excalibur 12-07-2008 06:54 PM

So does this mean one of us us going to do a page about Lost? Cause I only got the first DVD and the good guns won't be seen until at least season 2

Excalibur 12-07-2008 08:12 PM

And does anyone know all the kinds of guns used in the show?

mitchg 01-04-2010 04:01 PM

In season 5 episode 4, The Little Princess, is that a Kahr P9 seen early in the episode, the one hidden under the candy?

ManiacallyChallenged 01-05-2010 04:15 AM

The only problem I have with the show is that the characters constantly swap firearms whenever they hike through the jungle. So they see or hear something, and Sawyer raises his AK to fire aaaaaand.....
whoa, it's a handgun now!

Just a little jarring, although they usually don't have continuity errors.

k9870 01-05-2010 01:33 PM

I like the p226 and 92fs being common in the 1970s lol.

Excalibur 01-05-2010 04:26 PM

I'm catching up in this series and saw the FAL.

joffeloff 02-03-2010 12:54 PM

I know we have a bunch of prop guys on here, but this show is filmed in Hawaii so I guess maybe not involved with it..

But what's up with the camouflage the merc team wears? It looks almost like multicam but more green. Does multicam really work that well in a jungle environment, or did they dye it/get a greener knockoff?

Excalibur 02-03-2010 03:08 PM

You mean the ones that appeared in season 4? Yeah, I noticed that too and shrugged it off. The moment I heard one guy say "hand me another clip" I knew they were going to be taken seriously.

joffeloff 02-03-2010 03:23 PM

I was just wondering if anyone knew exactly what the pattern was, out of curiosity. :p

Spartan198 02-03-2010 03:58 PM

I might be able to tell you if I saw a pic of it.

Gunner313 02-03-2010 05:21 PM

Its multicam and he has a Blackhawk vest.

joffeloff 02-04-2010 12:03 PM

http://img24.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=97831409.jpg

It looks exactly like multicam except greener. Makes me wonder if they dyed it to make it work better in jungle or if its a green knockoff variant.

Or are my eyes being fooled and does multicam really blend in this well in a jungle environment?

Spartan198 02-04-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joffeloff (Post 11518)
http://img24.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=97831409.jpg

It looks exactly like multicam except greener. Makes me wonder if they dyed it to make it work better in jungle or if its a green knockoff variant.

Or are my eyes being fooled and does multicam really blend in this well in a jungle environment?

Wow... just about the only thing that could blend in better is a Ghillie suit.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-04-2010 11:59 PM

Anybody see the new season premiere? The Sig P226 they had in 1977....


SPOLIER
Finally isn't out of place. But Hurley can't use it. Great scene.

Yournamehere 02-05-2010 12:21 AM

Yeah they totally disregarded the anachronism and used the same weapons they used in the other seasons. Quite a few continuity errors too.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-05-2010 12:28 AM

Hurley yelling:
"I have a gun and I know how to use it!"
While trying to rack the slide unsuccessfully(probably because the safety was on) was the highlight of the entire series so far.

GO HURLEY!

Yournamehere 02-05-2010 12:30 AM

He had a SIG 226, which doesn't have a safety that locks the slide, or any manual safety for that matter. Hurley just sucks with guns hehe.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-05-2010 02:10 AM

Heh, really?
That makes it even hilarious-er.
Lost is awesome.

k9870 02-05-2010 02:56 AM

even funnier, he got the SIG in the early 1970s, and Jack gets a m92fs :eek:

Excalibur 02-05-2010 04:43 AM

Well it is possible they kept their old guns they got from seasons 1-4 when they went time traveling.

I mean, I was surprised that they didn't keep the M4s from the mercs. Imagine M4s in the 70s.

Ruger Mini-14s exists in the 70s right?

I found it stupid in a scene when they were in the 50s, the confiscated M1 Garands and Locke said that theirs look brand new, as in you have to be in the 1950s to get a brand new M1 rifle when you can get on just as new today.

k9870 02-05-2010 05:44 PM

They were shown stealing the guns from the armory. All they traveled through time with was a garand and m1 carbine. The mini 14 had only been ot a year or two during those scenes, so its possible bt not likely theyd have them.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-06-2010 03:36 AM

Come on, they're on the most secret location in the world.
I think they have money and means.


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