Kahr owns Auto Ordnance too, they didn't change their product line I don't think. I have read that Auto Ordnance's quality got better after being bought by Kahr.

I guess some of Magnum Research guns are made by themselves, but most are built by someone else and Magnum Research is the importer.

Yeah but it is dumb to name a 1911 a Desert Eagle.

I just got back from the local (non cop oriented) gun store. I handled a CZ 75 and suprise, suprise- It took 2 tries to rack the slide. I also held a little S&W .40 compact that I really liked. Maybe I'll forgo the Glock and just buy a little compact S&W auto, seeing as the gun shows full of them (people around here are trading their old, unattractive S&W's for flashy new Kimbers) and mags are easy to get. I also saw an old, beat to shit Sistema, which is a gun you only see around these parts once in a blue moon

I want a fusion grand sport wide body.

A compact .40 doesn't sound fun, shooting and cost wise, and are you saying it's good or bad that it took 2 tries to rack the slide?

2 tries is a bad thing and I think their is a similiar gun to the .40 but in .45 or 9mm. I see them all the time at gun shows because alot of people are trying to get money to buy stuff like USPs and SIGs

I dont understand the usp fascination, the magazine release is on the trigger guard for some reason.

It's sort of a status symbol. People genreally realize their mistake and buy a SIG, so there are tons and tons of them around

"Status symbol" and media exposure aside, they're excellent guns. They're just over-priced.

When I asked about this on the HKPRO board (because I don't like that style mag release, either), the answer I got from several USP owners is that if you have really big hands or long fingers, it's actually more convenient to be able to tap a mag release on the trigger guard than pull your finger all the way back to a button on the grip. But one of the guys who said this to me was some instructor who teaches fast reload techniques where .001-second differences apparently matter. It's not like I care, because those kinds of reloads are not something I feel a need to learn (even though it looks cool).

If the USP was priced based on performance, it only be worth about $400



No, my hands are massive and it's still inconvenient

USPs perform great ( i know a cop whos usp 45 has ate 6000 rounds with no malfunction) but the ergos are poor for me.