http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5003/123yae.jpg

Hint: 9x19 & .45

Hmm. I got nothing. I imagine it's another low production 1930s South American SMG, but as for make or model I don't know.

I've seen it before and I'll bee looking through my files.

Ok, it's been 3 weeks now. Do we post something else or declare the thread dead?

something else

It´s a Hafdasa Z4, made in the 30´s. Hard, I know.

Licensed copy of a CZ handgun (easy, just see the markings):

http://i42.tinypic.com/2udylb9.jpg

It's a Zamorana.

Incidentally, oddly enough the CZ-2000 isn't made by CZ. Not the famous one anyways.

This one is both bastard hard for its obscurity, and fairly easy for the fact that if you've heard of it you can't mistake it for anything else.

It's obviously a conversion of a bolt-action rifle, but which bolt gun is the question. The barrel shroud/shoulder thing that goes up looks a little like the Lewis gun's, but the gun overall looks like a German Gewer 98/Kar98k.

That´s weird. It looks like a supressed barrel.

It's not a supressor, it's an air cooling jacket. As Mandolin said, not unlike a Lewis gun.

Hint: It's in .303.

No one wants to take a crack at it? I even mentionned it in passing not that long ago.

Possibly one of the fugliest automatic rifles I have ever seen, the Huot auto rifle.

And Markost gets it.

Funny thing is, the Huot was actually a surprisingly effective weapon, considering it's a Ross rifle converted to a machine gun. I read the original report on the thing from 1918, and it actually beat the Lewis in almost every test they put them through, including (amazingly) reliability. If WW1 had lasted into 1919 we were going to ditch the Lewis for the Huot.

I'm sure budget was a factor, considering we still had hundreds of thousands of Rosses on inventory and no good use for them, and it was a hell of alot cheaper to convert them to Huots than to buy more Lewis guns, but the testing data was actually pretty solid.

Wasn't the Ross the rifle equivelet of the French Chauceat or whatever you call teh thing? You know, the jam-o-matic "machine gun" that never worked? Supprising how good teh Ross was as an MG

Nopes, the Ross is a bolt-action rifle, and the Chauchat was a light machinegun, like the Madsen.

Btw, guess this (easy):

http://i42.tinypic.com/34eymh2.jpg

The Ross was definately not a successful weapon. It was too long, too heavy, too complicated (there are literally 9 parts to the front sight) and tended to jam when fired quickly or dirty. It was an awesome sporting rifle, an superb sniper rifle, but it was not a good infantry rifle.

That said, the Chauchat was actually a better gun than it tends to get credit for. The American sucked, for sure, but that's because it was chambered in .30-06 when the gun was designed for 8mm Lebel. You chamber any gun in a round that generates pressures it wasn't designed for, you're going to have problems. In French service they actually weren't that bad. Not great, but not that bad.

I do actually know that one, but I'll give somebody else a shot on it.

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seriously, lets continue this old topic

Well, nobody answered, it´s a mexican Mendoza.

Zulu, you´re the necromancer, so it´s your turn.

Oh, right, I meant to post the answer to that. Yeah, it's a Mendoza M1934.

It looks like someone mated a Glock and a 1911 together. The blocked out logo on the slide (which is square like the Glock logo), the slide's basic shape, the idea of a polymer frame, the slide takedown lever and slide stop buttons are all Glock shaped, and it generally looks like a Glock and a 1911 combined.

Please tell me this is some sort of 1911/Glock hybrid, because if it's not I'm stumped.

which pic, the original i posted? It was a original gun by alchemy arms, which was striker fired, but with a 1911 grip angle.

Well, since no one else has done one, let's start it off with an easy one.

Is it a Spanish copy of a Smith and Wesson? Maybe an Eibar?

If you look it actually says Smith & Wesson on the gun.

Also, Eibar is a place, not a company.

Really? This guy who collects revolvers always calls the Spanish revolvers he finds "Eibars" so I assumed they were a manufacturer

Eibar is a city in the Basque region of Spain that was the center of the old gunmaking industry there. Before the Spanish Civil War there were dozens if not hundreds of independent arms factories and gunmakers based there, but the only ones to survive the war and Franco's industrialization programmes were Star (Bonifacio Echevarria before 1919), Llama (Gabilondo y Urresti before 1932) and Astra (which had actually moved to Guernica in 1913). In the glory days of the Eibar gun making industry some of the better-known names were Orbea (king of the Spanish revolvers), Garate, Trocaola and Unceta Esperanza.

All of the guns made in that area either bore a company / gunmaker's name and adress or a trade name, and those adresses would include the city of Eibar. For example my Garate .455 is stamped "Manufactura Espescial de Revolvers, Garate Anitua y Cia - Eibar (Espana)". Eibar often gets applied as a blanket term to all Spanish handguns, espescially the smaller makers, but it's not actually a gunmaker.

We go through all the trouble of resurrecting this thread and no one is even going to take a guess? Come on guys, it's a 5-shot swing-out cylinder S&W with squared grips, this shouldn't be that hard.

Ok, it's a Smith & Wesson .38 Regulation Police. Anyone else want to post something?

I like this thread, I'll give it a jolt of life.

Tell me what this is folks. Those who can tell easily wait and see what others say first.

I know the model, but please, erase the markings.

It's a Llama Model XV .22.

bump to thread that interests me.

looks kind of like a Winchester 1905, but I have no idea.

Nope. Hint: it's a .30 Remington selectable pump / semi auto rifle.

YAY! IT LIVES! i thought about this earlier about resurecting it

Still can't find the what model it is.

It's a Standard Semi-Automatic Rifle Model G. I believe the model was made between 1900-1920. By all accounts it was not a very reliable rifle. The Standard Arms Company was based in Wilmington, Delaware.

Right you are!

ok checkman, your up. go easy on us

Okay this is going to be interesting. Here you go.