It's a satanic impulse guided by dark magicks and evil spirits.

You mean zombies? or the impulse to eat food? Cause I'm talking about the virus kind of zombies that Romero invented, not the old fashion voodoo zombies and there was nothing satanic about voodoo magic. Every culture that precedes Christianty had a sort of magic and then oppose of that is dark arts. Just because it's "magic" doesnt mean it's satanic. Saying it isn't doesnt mean I support it. There is no black and white when it comes to anything. You have to look at it without bias. The moment you said satanic in your sentence means your response was influenced by christian roots or from media.

Well while we're on that topic.... :rolleyes:


Vampires: Mossberg 590 with mounted silver coated M9 Bayonet, sidesaddle mounted entry light, 12 Gauge shells with silver coated buckshot.

Unicorns Benelli R1 .30-06 and Rifle Sights

Keebler Elves (Assuming their evil) M1 Carbine, though most any gun will probably do

It'd be much easier to flamethrower the elves' tree.

Hmmm good point...

hmmm...tough choice, how 'bout: Charles Bronson?

Then we're gonna need some rope

....lots of rope.

You get the rope


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVs9Tuapoqw

That's also what I was trying to point out. Everything we know about supernatural beings are based on books, movies, TV, or video games and not science or logic. If we relied solely on science or logic, we wouldn't have supernatural beings. If George Romero says you can stop a zombie by severing the spine, then so be it. But if he says they can only be stopped by destroying the brain, that's also binding. He also says zombies are slow. But his zombies are only one type of zombies.

The "rules" don't have to make sense. You can shoot a werewolf in the head at point blank range, but unless it's a silver bullet, it won't stop it. Vampires are repelled by garlic, but not onions, potatoes, or cilantro. You can stop a vampire with a crucifix, but not a regular Latin cross, Greek cross, or a Star of David.

I was just throwing Keebler Elves out there as an example. I bear no ill will toward the Keebler Elves. And if I were ever charged with eradicating them, I want them to know that for a price, I can look the other way.

You would fail. No survivors

You're still not getting it obviously. I'm not talking about any nerves, blood circulation, breathing or anything except the structure. If the center of a structure is removed, it collapses. That's it.

And I love how when I prove you wrong in a subject, you try to change it. First, it was weapons of choice, then it was zombies are fantasy, then it's that science should not be involved. Wow, good job buddy. So stop crying about other shit to avoid that matter of the real subject.

You also contradicted yourself by saying that zombies are supernatural. In some situations they're not, as in 28 Days Later. Is that choosing a science? Or that your weapons of choice is based on slow zombies? Why do you get to chose and say that chosing sciences are ridiculous?

As I've said before, DEFINE ZOMBIES. I'm thinking reanimated undead. I'm thinking George Romero, you know, the guy who invented the genre. I never watched all of 28 Days Later. Are they dead before they turn on people, or is it merely a disease? If they are dead first, and then they're reanimated, then it IS fantasy. Something that was never dead is not a zombie. I'm not changing the subject, I'm just reiterating a point you're obviously not getting. Your thinking behind your weapon selection is entirely based on a theory derived from science, that stopping a zombie is similar to stopping a human, and I'm just pointing out that when dealing with supernatural creatures like zombies, science and logic is irrelevant.

It sounds like you're just talking about killing living, yet diseased human beings who won't shoot back. Hell, that's easy. All you have to do is hope that UPS can still deliver your mags when the streets are overrun with crazy diseased people.

If you somehow remove a zombie's ability to stand up straight, it's still going to crawl towards you with its arms, moaning "BRAAAAAINSS" the whole way.

Romero zombies or the zombies that is mostly used in popular culture don't talk and especially dont scream "brains". That was from one single movie where the whole brains line is more of a parody on zombie movies

The Return of the Living Dead series is crap anyways...

Is that the series where they can't even kill the zombies?

That's the one...

I've only seen one of the movies, but from what I've heard they are all horrible

walking dead looks cool, wonder what type of zombies they have though, i mean, they were slow zombies, but are they retarded headshot only types or like infected people types.

First of all, I NEVER SAID "KILL"! I said immobilize! IMMOBILIZE as in it can't move! Without the spine of a human on the zombie, it would be pretty much just lay there!

Second of all, 28 Days later was like a rage disease like rabies but far more advaced created by scientists.

Last, I have all my weapons and mags, so I will always be prepared for any type of situation. You'll be the one that will need UPS to deliver your shit by the time this type of shit happens.

Zombies were created by Hollywood. In every zombie movie made in the world, they can be killed by brain damage or immobilize by destroying the bone structure, dumbass. So you can cook up all these stupid theories in your head saying "what is a zombie?" when you already know what the fuck they are. So based on "fantasy", what movie or video game have you found where zombies are fucking indestructable? None! Thank you!

You based your weapons on thinking that you can kill zombies. If you didn't think that they could die, why would you have weapons at all? Exactly! The beginning of this argument was that my weapons of choice were better than yours. If zombies can die from what we were told in movies, then my choices are far better than yours. End of story. You lost, get over it, don't change the subject!

Here are my weapons just in case you forgot:

Primary:
A DSA SA58 FAL PARA Elite Compact Rifle, .308 Cal. hollow points with an EOtech sight, ITC cheek rest, Extreme Duty scope mount, a SureFire M900, a SAW pistol grip, a three point sling, and 6 extra 30 round magazines.

Secondary:
A Sig Sauer P220 Elite Dark TB, .45 ACP hydrashoks with an STL-100C tactical light, 6 extra 10 round magazines, and an IWB holster.

I would have a Molle Tactical Vest to fit all the magazine pouches and other accessories.

Yes I own and shot these weapons. I own everything expect the molle vest.

I didn't like it when they explained the origin of the rage virus as created by Scientists, sounds TOO sci-fi and farfetched. It would've made more sense and it would've been more realistic (as far as you can get in a zombie film) if it was just some virus that mutated deep in the bowels of the wilderness or far in some African jungle or something.

I would have a low profile plate carrier vest, with 3a armor inserts, and plates on vitals, to protect against other survivors. I would have a backpack, with water resevoir, and all gear i needed, including blanket, raincoat, food, small shovel, etc. inside a side pocket of backpack would be a ruger mk 3 with integrally supressed tactical solutions upper. on the vest id have bottom holding some 30 round PMAGs, and the top would have a cold steel srk, a radio, and pistol mags. Id have Tough BDUS and a riggers belt, on which i have left side a 686p in a crossdraw holster and custom work done, right zide a horizontal double mag pouch, and a p229 elite dark 40 in a safariland 6004, and a magazine drop pouch on left thigh. Combat boots, a ruger lcr 357 on ankle, and my main weapon is a noveske crusader with switchblock, a supressor in my bag. Id have a tangodown stubby, light on the rails, and a eotech. A mk14 ebr clone made with a m1a loaded collapsed on my back. ready for anything, yep. Oh, and a boonie hat, and cigars in the tube held in spare molle straps.

Yes, just like in Brain Dead.

Gettin' angry about made up nonsense ITT.

Because this guy I'm talking to, can't get anything through his head.

You're missing the point that what you're trying to get through his head is really not important or consequential to anything at all ever and that this whole topic is silly.

If there's a movie that says you can stop a zombie by immobilizing the bone structure, then so be it. That's all you had to say. "According to movie X, you can do it." But don't say, "because it works on a human, it works on a zombie," or "science says so," The question remains, what is a zombie? Are your "zombies" fast, like in the new Dawn of the Dead, or slow, like in all the other Romero movies. I didn't say they couldn't "die" I just said you have to define how to kill them, and that definition can't come from science.

But fine, let's just assume that you can stop one with a bone injury and that it would stop coming at you, bleeding out perhaps. You've got six mags for each weapon, good for 240 rounds. (6x30 + 6x10, in case you wanted to just curse some more instead of doing the math) So what happens after 240 rounds?

The weapons I listed were for slow zombies that can only by stopped by damaging the brain. (See how I defined the threat there?) For a slow moving, yet small target, a shotgun would work better than a rifle, and the fact that I can load and fire one round at a time relatively quickly, means that I can hold out as long as I have ammo, rather than as long as I have mags. If I have to deal with quick moving zombies, I might go with the same mix. A spine is still a small target, and aiming below center mass isn't natural, so I'd probably forget to do it in the heat of the moment. So we're talking about a sightly larger target, but now moving much faster. I'd also swap out the tomahawk for my sharpened entrenching tool, you can inflict more blunt head trauma that way.

"...nightmare fantasy scenario." I think I pointed that out about a dozen posts ago.

Ideally, I'd want to use a lightsaber. With that and Force-lightning, this zombie outbreak would be over in hours.

you, shut up, sillbunz shut up
there.....problem solved

If that's the case, then I choose the antizombie twig. Whole apocalypse is over in minutes. :cool:

Oh, that's your solution for everything...

First of all, magazines are re-loadable. This amount is enough to hold me off until I would find more ammunition, not fight off all the zombies. With a pump action shotgun, reloading one by one is SLOOOW, compared to a magazine fed rifle that is semi automatic that shoots a .308 cal. I can let off more accurate shots from a further range. If it's close, I'm trained by the United States Army Infantry to react fast and shoot accurately at the same time. Also I can reload in short periods of time like 1-3 seconds rather than 30 seconds. One .308 will knock down a zombie no problem, giving me enough time to escape. So would a buck shot but you have 8+1 at the most. What would you do if they were closing in fast and you run out of ammo on the shotgun? Use your revolver? After 6 shots, then what? You picked the 2 slowest reloading weapons and you except the zombies to wait for you to reload? You might as well you a bolt action LOL! I will live thanks to my "stupid" magazines, and you will die reliably with faithful pump action and you revolver.

If you had read my posts or knew anything about shotguns, you would've known that with most pump shotguns, you don't have to load the magazine to fire it. Just open the breech, drop a shell into the ejection port, close the breech, and fire. If you do that, you can fire as long as you have shells. See the videos below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrlsElWfnC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSgi4qR8KOk

How long does it take YOU to reload a thirty round mag? (And remember, you chose fast zombies.)

Shotguns can use speedloaders, all the convenience of a magazine while retaining the versatility of manual reloading.

I should note that is an offensive and derogatory term, it's best you don't use it on the site. No arguments on it, I don't care where you stand on the issue, it's a derogatory term regardless.

"lame (cripples), dumb(mutes), and retard(mentally retarded)" are also regarded as offensive & derogatory......As is the origin of most insults...

It's also the one that introduced zombies that say "brains"