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AdAstra2009 02-28-2011 05:54 AM

I remember this episode of Family Matters that culminated in a gun buyback program minus the buying part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSrnGMA-C-Q

Excalibur 02-28-2011 09:09 AM

And it wasn't even a buy back program! They expected you to just turn in your guns for FREE.

Swordfish941 02-28-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 26303)
And it wasn't even a buy back program! They expected you to just turn in your guns for FREE.

What a rip-off!

Jcordell 02-28-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 25567)
They can do serious damage in a fight though, Id rather restrain a 100 pound meth head than a 250 pound body builder.

One of the hardest fights I ever had was with a 100 lb (est.) female who was a diagnosed schizophrenic and had been self-medicating with Meth for several weeks. I was a rookie officer who made the mistake of thinking that she was "safe" and then leaning into her. She was all happy and grinning until I told her that I believed she was Gravely Disabled (one of the criteria in Idaho to take a person on a involuntary mental hold) and would have to go to the hospital with me.

Ooops. :eek:

It was like somebody throwing a lightswitch. She went from friendly to very hostile. She center-punched me right between my eyes and broke my glasses (plastic frames) into two pieces. She then turned around and appeared to be making a beeline towards a wooden block on the kitchen counter. Just full of kitchen knives. She was well within 21 feet of me. 21 feet is considered to be the best (or worst) range for a knife to be it's most deadliest and the police officer's handgun to be the least effective. Needless to say I was surprised.

She may have been tiny and scrawny, but she was damm fast and wrestling with her was like trying to hold - well something really scrawny, squirmy and fast.

I got her into custody. No knives were pulled out of that block and I learned a very important lesson - a few actually.

Anyway the point is I don't want to have to go "hands-on" with anybody if possible. Regardless of their size. When the situation goes to that anything can happen. Many a cop has gotten into a hands-on fight and the suspect has gone to jail, but they have gone to the hospital. Over the years we've had several officers get seriously injured from having to fight suspects. I prefer to keep some distance if at all possible. Pepper Spray and the taser are good for that.

Since we started carrying tasers (2005) I believe I've been in three or four fights. Before that I was in several. Just the presence of the Taser has convined several folks to just go along quietly. I haven't even had to pull it out of it's holster. Despite all the horror stories that the media loves to print regarding the misuse of tasers by police I've seen it prevent more problems just by being present.

Anyway that's my warstory. Have I told that one before? Hope not. It's funny even if I don't come out looking like Supercop. At least both of us are still alive.

Incidentally I saw that woman a couple years ago. Back on her meds, off of the meth, and doing very well. She apologized to me incidentally.

It's a very weird job I have.

S&Wshooter 02-28-2011 05:12 PM

My cousin was telling me that while he was a prison guard, he noticed that an extremely violent convict was moving towards him. My cousin put his hand on his mace, and when the guy saw that he ran away fast, as if my cousin had ponted a shotgun at him

AdAstra2009 03-01-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 26303)
And it wasn't even a buy back program! They expected you to just turn in your guns for FREE.

Oh, but they say that you "get your life back"

Excalibur 03-03-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 26366)
Oh, but they say that you "get your life back"

I already got a life. Where did it go and why are THEY giving it back to me?

S&Wshooter 03-03-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 26366)
Oh, but they say that you "get your life back"


That's stupid

Excalibur 03-03-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 26509)
That's stupid

That's the understatement of the century

AdAstra2009 03-03-2011 10:14 PM

Just watch the first 2 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNuKo...eature=related

Dean Cain.........jeez

Excalibur 03-03-2011 11:44 PM

"You people break into other's homes wearing black mask. When I was growing up, the bad guys do that not the cops."

Awesome line

But I do understand the idea of automatic weapon. It's cool, but I don't need one because I am not military trained to fire one and would just waste ammo, but I would like the option to get one more easily than jumping through a thousand hoops and a mountain of paper work and get harassed by the ATF every month

AdAstra2009 03-04-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 26546)
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But I do understand the idea of automatic weapon. It's cool, but I don't need one because I am not military trained to fire one and would just waste ammo, but I would like the option to get one more easily than jumping through a thousand hoops and a mountain of paper work and get harassed by the ATF every month

The way I see it if you have fun then it isn't ammo wasted.

k9870 03-04-2011 01:54 PM

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and get harassed by the ATF every month

Theres a myth and a half. So many people claim having anything class 3 means the atf swings by doing random inspections, that you give up privacy rights, etc. In reality all you deal with is the paperwork and the wait. My state allows class 3s and guys at my range do subgun shoots on the idpa ranges. Never been given a problem, the myth is probablly made by brady bunchers trying to keep you from having one. Id like a .22 with a supressor some day for plinking at places where you can shoot but noise causes complaints. A full auto .22 would be the ultimate plinker.

S&Wshooter 03-04-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 26557)
Theres a myth and a half. So many people claim having anything class 3 means the atf swings by doing random inspections, that you give up privacy rights, etc. In reality all you deal with is the paperwork and the wait. My state allows class 3s and guys at my range do subgun shoots on the idpa ranges. Never been given a problem, the myth is probablly made by brady bunchers trying to keep you from having one. Id like a .22 with a supressor some day for plinking at places where you can shoot but noise causes complaints. A full auto .22 would be the ultimate plinker.

Of coures the ATF doesn't give 2 goddamns about the law or your rights, so they could do a random inspection if they feel like it.

They have already been harassing gun owners around the border

Constantine 03-05-2011 01:11 AM

The movie "Crash" as well....Has an anit-gun hue of liberal to it.

mr_Goodbomb 05-06-2011 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 22096)
I would imagine most viewers would see the movie and think that automatic weapons can be bought at gun stores with minimal effort.

Most viewers probably don't know full autos aren't legal. Most viewers probably don't know the difference between semi auto and full auto.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 05-06-2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_Goodbomb (Post 28632)
Most viewers probably don't know full autos aren't legal. Most viewers probably don't know the difference between semi auto and full auto.

If I had a dollar for every time the news has referred to an SKS as an assault rifle...

MT2008 05-06-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_Goodbomb (Post 28632)
Most viewers probably don't know full autos aren't legal. Most viewers probably don't know the difference between semi auto and full auto.

Full-autos are technically legal; you just can't buy them the same way that normal rifles or pistols can be purchased. Or without taking out another mortgage.

But point taken...most people don't know the difference between auto and semi-auto.

Gunmaster45 05-06-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 26557)
Theres a myth and a half. So many people claim having anything class 3 means the atf swings by doing random inspections, that you give up privacy rights, etc. In reality all you deal with is the paperwork and the wait. My state allows class 3s and guys at my range do subgun shoots on the idpa ranges. Never been given a problem, the myth is probablly made by brady bunchers trying to keep you from having one. Id like a .22 with a supressor some day for plinking at places where you can shoot but noise causes complaints. A full auto .22 would be the ultimate plinker.

I got to shoot a full-auto .22 once. It was a Ruger 10/22 converted with some special pre-ban open bolt mod. Fired at about 1100rpm, and it was awesome to shoot with 50 round pre-ban mags. Even though each run through was an entire box of rounds, and the barrel would get pretty hot.

It hadn't been cleaned well enough so it jammed, which took some of the enjoyment out of rocking and rolling with it. Gun had no kick but the muzzle climb was tough to handle. I was like 13 at the time, so maybe now I'd be able to control it, but at the time it just jumped right up. Don't know what became of that gun, but I'd love to see it again.


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