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Yournamehere 07-11-2009 10:48 PM

Yeah I figured it had something to do with the mag release/floorplate too, when I say "do not have this safety" I was referring to the flick safety GM mentioned. Anyhow, like I said, 700.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 01:36 AM

Ah, I see. I'm glad I posed this on here, now I know. Now I can start making Face/Off sooner. Another iffie:

http://i25.tinypic.com/zlp189.jpg

Some type of side-folding AKMS, but the stock style doesn't look like an MPi-KMS. Any of the AK pros know?

MT2008 07-12-2009 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 4505)
Ah, I see. I'm glad I posed this on here, now I know. Now I can start making Face/Off sooner. Another iffie:

http://i25.tinypic.com/zlp189.jpg

Some type of side-folding AKMS, but the stock style doesn't look like an MPi-KMS. Any of the AK pros know?

There's a gun just like that one in "Executive Decision", which I documented on the page for that film. I think it may be an AKM fitted with a Vz. 58 side-folder stock, which is not a simple fit, but one that at least a few people I've seen on the AK Forum managed to accomplish.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 04:13 AM

That's the page I saw the same gun on before! I knew there was another movie with this AKMS in it, but I couldn't remember. Thanks for the help.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 04:28 AM

Here's one:

http://i29.tinypic.com/30hq05t.jpg

The Smith & Wesson Auto 9mm used by Sasha Hassler ([[Gina Gershon]]), I have no idea what it is. It is compact (so this rules out the full sized 5906 and the subcompact 6906), and has a bobbed hammer (but is compact and not subcompact which ruled out the 669). I'm not sure what type of S&W it is, I figured you guys could help.

One last thing. The Colt Commandos used by the police on the river. While I'm sure they are civilian Colt Sporter 1s or 2s converted, the selector switch is clearly on full auto. This would imply the lower is not a civilian version, since civie ARs don't even have a full-auto selection. Does this mean they have GAU/5 lowers?

Here's a shot:
http://i27.tinypic.com/11hs9rd.jpg

Yournamehere 07-12-2009 05:15 AM

The 69 series are compact guns, not subcompact. There is no size in between the 59 and 69 series guns. However it still isn't a 6906 because it appears to have a single stack frame. If this is so, it's a 3913.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 05:32 AM

It's too big to be a 3913 and the front of the frame isn't shaped right. And I know they isn't a specific size order, but it is easier for me to refer to the smallest as sub-compact, and go up from there.

MT2008 07-12-2009 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 4511)
The 69 series are compact guns, not subcompact. There is no size in between the 59 and 69 series guns. However it still isn't a 6906 because it appears to have a single stack frame. If this is so, it's a 3913.

The 3913's barrel is smaller and much more triangular-shaped than that. I'll take a look at my 1993 Smith & Wesson catalog tomorrow.

Yournamehere 07-12-2009 05:47 AM

I think that you think that the modern model is the only one, but it's not. The new ones have polygonal frames, but older, more realistic 3913s look like this:
http://i30.tinypic.com/314wkf9.jpg
Add in the fact that Gina Gershon is a woman, and therefore more than likely has smaller hands, and the gun is the perfect size for a 3913.

Gunmaster45 07-12-2009 05:50 AM

Here's more shots to help you narrow it down:

http://i30.tinypic.com/33nhzl2.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/16axnpg.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/331hv1t.jpg
^Note it has a bobbed hammer and decocking lever, and isn't DAO.

http://i27.tinypic.com/20tjya1.jpg


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